[vi-tech-testers] Re: no sound when booting arch
- From: "Agent Orange" <agentorange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:27:38 +0100
Don't think so Mo, the same effect was experienced on both my Dell and non-Dell
desktops.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: 23 May 2014 13:43
To: vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vi-tech-testers] Re: no sound when booting arch
Hi phil.
It will be interesting to see what experience other users have. Dell use their
own hardware for sound, so it could be to do with that perhaps? I will have to
see if I can test on a dell at this end. Keep us posted. I hope I can find a
machine that's flakey in terms of sound like yours so I can test it and try to
resolve the bug...
Mo.
Agent Orange <agentorange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Booted four further times on Win XP machine. Experienced 3 failures of
speech, and 1 success. When it works I can hear it with speakers at
normal
levels, and no message about multiple sound cards.
I'll proceed with a backup on the basis that it appears that with enough
reboots the CD will eventually launch speech.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Agent Orange [mailto:agentorange@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 23 May 2014 13:00
To: 'vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [vi-tech-testers] Re: no sound when booting arch
Hi Mo,
Just tried booting from the Cd on my Win XP machine. On the fourth
boot I
have speech. I did jam the volume right up on this occasion but I did
not
receive a message about multiple sound cards. Also, when I turn the
volume
back down
I can
still hear speakup. So I'm not sure that volume was
actually the issue. Saying that, I did not do anything else different
on
the fourth boot so not sure why it worked this time and not previously.
I'll try booting off the CD a few more times and see whether I continue
to
experience any failures.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: 23 May 2014 12:11
To: vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vi-tech-testers] Re: no sound when booting arch
Hello Phil.
I've just tried this on my desktop. i had to turn my speakers up to
full, i
could hear a very quiet voice speaking initially. after i turned my
speakers
up, a message informed me that multiple sound cards were apparently
present,
and to select which one i wanted to use. when the relevant sound card
b
eeped.
i waited for the beep and pressed enter just after it. this is a
strange message to be displayed especially since my computer only has 1
sound card. could you try turning your speakers up to full and seeing
if the
same things happens for you? if others experience issues like this it
may be
that we have to get rid of that script which for some reason is launched
everytime arch thinks you have multiple sound cards...
Mo.
On 23/05/2014 11:58, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Hi Phil.
This is very interesting! I will shortly try this on my
desktop. what
hardware are you running it on? laptop or desktop? do you have
any
other accessories? USB headsets, amplifiers, etc? i'm just
wondering
what would be different between your setup and mine...
Mo.
On 23/05/2014 11:37, Agent Oran
ge
wrote:
Having successfully created a bootable CD from Mo's ISO
image, I
prepared my target PC by deleting loads of data to make
the backup
and restore process faster. The target PC is running
Win XP Home
SP3.
I then inserted the bootable CD into the CD ROM drive
and rebooted
whilst holding down F12 to bring up my list of boot
options, then
cursored down twice to select the option to boot from
the CD ROM
Drive.
This seems to happen fine and the CD ROM Drive makes
all the correct
noises.
I then hear a bleep. I arrow down once to what I
believe is the 32
bit version of Talking Arch and press Enter. Again,
more positive
noises from the CD ROM Drive indicating plenty of
activity.
However, once all activity from the CD ROM Drive has
stopped, at the
point I would
expect
to hear speakup announce root@archISO, all I
receive is a stony silence.
I believe Arch has loaded correctly as I can type the
poweroff and
the reboot commands at this point, and the PC will
respond with the
appropriate action. So it is clear that Linux is
operational. But
no speech.
I have tried increasing the volume using Caps 2 (that
is 2 on the
number row not on the numpad). But no change.
Thinking that this could be an issue with the sound
card on my Win XP
machine, I repeated the above process by booting from
the same CD but
this time using my Windows 7 PC which has different
hardware (just 4
months old).
Unfortunately I receive an identical result - no
speech, but Linux
appears to be executing the reboot / poweroff commands.
Bit of a stone wall really .... Any thoughts?
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Agent Orange
[mailto:agentorange@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 23 May 2014 10:03
To: 'vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [vi-tech-testers] types of feedback wanted?
Mo, problem solved. The ISO has now burned to a blank
CD after I
downloaded it again.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Agent Orange [mailto:agentorange@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 23 May 2014 09:35
To: 'vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [vi-tech-testers] types of feedback wanted?
Thanks Mo.
I'd be interested in committing some time towards a
project aiming to
test hardware and software with the goal of improving
accessibility.
Take your point re feed back, thanks for clarifying
that for me.
On the specifics of testing the Talking Arch backup and
recovery
disc, I have downloaded the file:
TalkingArch-2014.05.02-dual.iso
I obtained this from the link you
provided. I downloaded it using
Firefox
29 to a Win 7 Pro 64bit PC.
I have just tried using the Win 7 Image Burner to burn
the ISO file
to a blank CD but have received the following message
under the
Status
indicator:
The selected disc image file isn't valid.
I have used JFW to virtualise the content of the
Windows Image burner
and copy out the full text below:
Windows Disc Image Burner
Disc image file: TalkingArch-2014.05.02-dual.iso Disc
burner: BD-RE
Drive (D:) Status The selected disc image file isn't
valid.
Verify disc after burning
Burn Cancel
I will try downloading it again in case it has become
corrupted.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Mobeen
Iqbal
Sent: 22 May 2014 23:00
To:
vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vi-tech-testers] types of feedback wanted?
Hello Phil.
I should've clarified, to be honest i hadn't mentioned
the type of
feedback specifically. its mainly objective feedback
that i'm after,
if we can refine the process of people being able to
backup their
systems it would be fantastic to make it as fool proof
as possible.
i'm also waiting for someone to test this on a windows
8 system. so
far i haven't found anyone with a windows machine i can
junk *evil
chuckle*.
personally i hate windows8 it was just like windows
vista. i haven't
been asked to install it once hahahaha windows7 still
remains the
most popular operating system. if people want to
comment on the guide
as well its fine, but all the editing will be done at
the end once
feedback's been collected.
there may still be significant changes to be made. many
thanks to all
of you f
or your
responses. perhaps we should make a habbit on this
list of facing different challenges, i'm still trying
to work out the
specific goals and the reasons i created this list. can
it become
something more? i.e should we take on testing and
improving various
products hardware or software?
its an
interesting concept and i think viable if people pool
resources/experience but it would all depend on how
much time people
have.
all the best,
Mo.
Mo.
On 22/05/2014 13:48, Agent Orange wrote:
Hi Mo,
Still here. I've read the guide and have
downloaded the ISO. I'll
be testing it in the next day or so.
Apologies if you have already explained this.
What sort of comments
/ feedback are you hoping to get? Would you
like comments of a technical nature, eg, the process failed, or the steps in
the guide
do not accurately reflect the steps I had to go
through, or there
was an error, etc? Or would you like comments
on the text of your
guide which are of a more editorial nature, eg,
whether there is too
much or too little detail, whether you might
consider re-phrasing a
sentence, etc?
The former is more objective and in many ways
easier for folks to
provide.
The latter is potentially more subjective, more
time consuming, and
perhaps depends on whether the tester
understands your views about
the target audience for the guide and shares
your style of writing.
If you could offer some thoughts / guidance on
the sort of feedback
you are, or are not, looking for, I would find
that helpful in
targeting my thoughts to those areas you are
particularly interested
in.
Another question: your guide currently
specifies
a
command line
process
(fdisk) for the tester to 'break' their hard
disc installation of
Windows.
Obviously this section will be omitted in the
final user guide as it
is for testing purposes only! However, for
those of us more
comfortable in Windows, I assume you would be
happy for the disc to
be reformatted using other means, eg, via the
command prompt or
using a Windows utility? Or would you prefer
us to stick with the
program and use fdisk? Happy to do the latter
if you prefer.
Cheers
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Mobeen
Iqbal
Sent: 22 May 2014 13:35
To: vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vi-tech-testers] is anyone awake?
Hi everyone.
its very quiet on list, just wondering if
you're all still around?
don't
forget to recommend this list to others who you
think may be
interested in testing the guide. unfortunately
i'm not subscribed to
any of the US mailing lists, but its probably
worth spreading the
word...
Mo.
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