[vi-tech-testers] Re: no sound when booting arch

  • From: Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:11:17 +0100

Hello Phil.

I've just tried this on my desktop. i had to turn my speakers up to full, i could hear a very quiet voice speaking initially. after i turned my speakers up, a message informed me that multiple sound cards were apparently present, and to select which one i wanted to use. when the relevant sound card beeped. i waited for the beep and pressed enter just after it. this is a strange message to be displayed especially since my computer only has 1 sound card. could you try turning your speakers up to full and seeing if the same things happens for you? if others experience issues like this it may be that we have to get rid of that script which for some reason is launched everytime arch thinks you have multiple sound cards...

Mo.

On 23/05/2014 11:58, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Hi Phil.

This is very interesting! I will shortly try this on my desktop. what hardware are you running it on? laptop or desktop? do you have any other accessories? USB headsets, amplifiers, etc? i'm just wondering what would be different between your setup and mine...

Mo.

On 23/05/2014 11:37, Agent Orange wrote:
Having successfully created a bootable CD from Mo's ISO image, I prepared my target PC by deleting loads of data to make the backup and restore process
faster.  The target PC is running Win XP Home SP3.

I then inserted the bootable CD into the CD ROM drive and rebooted whilst
holding down F12 to bring up my list of boot options, then cursored down
twice to select the option to boot from the CD ROM Drive.

This seems to happen fine and the CD ROM Drive makes all the correct noises.
I then hear a bleep.  I arrow down once to what I believe is the 32 bit
version of Talking Arch and press Enter. Again, more positive noises from
the CD ROM Drive indicating plenty of activity.

However, once all activity from the CD ROM Drive has stopped, at the point I would expect to hear speakup announce root@archISO, all I receive is a stony
silence.

I believe Arch has loaded correctly as I can type the poweroff and the
reboot commands at this point, and the PC will respond with the appropriate
action.  So it is clear that Linux is operational.  But no speech.

I have tried increasing the volume using Caps 2 (that is 2 on the number row
not on the numpad).  But no change.

Thinking that this could be an issue with the sound card on my Win XP
machine, I repeated the above process by booting from the same CD but this time using my Windows 7 PC which has different hardware (just 4 months old). Unfortunately I receive an identical result - no speech, but Linux appears
to be executing the reboot / poweroff commands.

Bit of a stone wall really ....  Any thoughts?

Phil



-----Original Message-----
From: Agent Orange [mailto:agentorange@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 23 May 2014 10:03
To: 'vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [vi-tech-testers] types of feedback wanted?


Mo, problem solved. The ISO has now burned to a blank CD after I downloaded
it again.

Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: Agent Orange [mailto:agentorange@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 23 May 2014 09:35
To: 'vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [vi-tech-testers] types of feedback wanted?


Thanks Mo.

I'd be interested in committing some time towards a project aiming to test
hardware and software with the goal of improving accessibility.

Take your point re feed back, thanks for clarifying that for me.

On the specifics of testing the Talking Arch backup and recovery disc, I
have downloaded the file:

TalkingArch-2014.05.02-dual.iso

I obtained this from the link you provided. I downloaded it using Firefox
29 to a Win 7 Pro 64bit PC.

I have just tried using the Win 7 Image Burner to burn the ISO file to a
blank CD but have received the following message under the Status indicator:


The selected disc image file isn't valid.

I have used JFW to virtualise the content of the Windows Image burner and
copy out the full text below:

Windows Disc Image Burner
Disc image file: TalkingArch-2014.05.02-dual.iso
Disc burner: BD-RE Drive (D:)
Status
The selected disc image file isn't valid.
Verify disc after burning
Burn Cancel

I will try downloading it again in case it has become corrupted.

Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: 22 May 2014 23:00
To: vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vi-tech-testers] types of feedback wanted?

Hello Phil.

I should've clarified, to be honest i hadn't mentioned the type of feedback specifically. its mainly objective feedback that i'm after, if we can refine
the process of people being able to backup their systems it would be
fantastic to make it as fool proof as possible. i'm also waiting for someone
to test this on a windows 8 system. so far i haven't found anyone with a
windows machine i can junk *evil chuckle*.
personally i hate windows8 it was just like windows vista. i haven't been asked to install it once hahahaha windows7 still remains the most popular operating system. if people want to comment on the guide as well its fine, but all the editing will be done at the end once feedback's been collected. there may still be significant changes to be made. many thanks to all of you for your responses. perhaps we should make a habbit on this list of facing different challenges, i'm still trying to work out the specific goals and the reasons i created this list. can it become something more? i.e should we take on testing and improving various products hardware or software? its an interesting concept and i think viable if people pool resources/experience
but it would all depend on how much time people have.

all the best,

Mo.



Mo.

On 22/05/2014 13:48, Agent Orange wrote:
Hi Mo,

Still here.  I've read the guide and have downloaded the ISO. I'll be
testing it in the next day or so.

Apologies if you have already explained this.  What sort of comments /
feedback are you hoping to get?  Would you like comments of a
technical nature, eg, the process failed, or the steps in the guide do
not accurately reflect the steps I had to go through, or there was an
error, etc?  Or would you like comments on the text of your guide
which are of a more editorial nature, eg, whether there is too much or
too little detail, whether you might consider re-phrasing a sentence, etc?

The former is more objective and in many ways easier for folks to provide.
The latter is potentially more subjective, more time consuming, and
perhaps depends on whether the tester understands your views about the
target audience for the guide and shares your style of writing.

If you could offer some thoughts / guidance on the sort of feedback
you are, or are not, looking for, I would find that helpful in
targeting my thoughts to those areas you are particularly interested in.

Another question: your guide currently specifies a command line
process
(fdisk) for the tester to 'break' their hard disc installation of Windows.
Obviously this section will be omitted in the final user guide as it
is for testing purposes only!  However, for those of us more
comfortable in Windows, I assume you would be happy for the disc to be
reformatted using other means, eg, via the command prompt or using a
Windows utility?  Or would you prefer us to stick with the program and
use fdisk?  Happy to do the latter if you prefer.

Cheers

Phil





-----Original Message-----
From: vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vi-tech-testers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen
Iqbal
Sent: 22 May 2014 13:35
To: vi-tech-testers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vi-tech-testers] is anyone awake?

Hi everyone.

its very quiet on list, just wondering if you're all still around?
don't forget to recommend this list to others who you think may be
interested in testing the guide. unfortunately i'm not subscribed to
any of the US mailing lists, but its probably worth spreading the word...

Mo.








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