[vi-kindle] Newby Kindle user, and a few questions

  • From: Christopher Gilland <clgilland07@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: vi-kindle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:50:24 -0400

Hi guys. My name is Chris, and I'm a long time tech guru, however, admittedly, it wasn't until yesterday that my roomate found an old Amazon Kindle Fire 7 inch 5th gen tablet that he wasn't using, and decided to let me have.


Currently, I have updated the tablet to Fire OS 5.6.2.0. It's looking like this is the most recent version that is supported by the 5th gen non-HD tabs, which mine is not an HD. Shucks! LOL!


Anyway, I have a few questions in regards to Voiceview, and such.


Keep in mind that I am extremely! familiar with the Android platform, and use Talkback as well as sometimes the built in Samsung's Voice Assist option on my Galaxy S8 Plus running Android 8.0 Oreo on a very very regular basis, so Android, which I know Fire backbones off of is absolutely no stranger to me at all in the least. Therefore, picking up the Fire tablet, familiarizing myself with the gestures and such came almost instantly to me. There has hardly been a learning curve for me at all.


So, here're my few questions.


First off, I understand that if you sideload the Google Playstore on the device, which by the way, I have indeed done successfully, you then can install most, and that's the big key here, most! apps from there.


So, I found the Google Accessibility suite, got it downloaded and installed, but don't see Talkback under the Accessibility settings/services like I would on a regular device running Android.


My first question therefore is, why in the confounding blizard of nation can Shine screen reader be installed, but not Talkback! Well, OK, it can be, but it's not going to show up, and therefore is essentially a total waste of capassity to try. Does anyone know a hack, or trick to get around this short of custom modding the whole device, and flashing full Android on the thing? Which by the way, I'm not at all in any objection to doing, but I really would honestly rather not, if I could at all help it. For one, it probably wouldn't be legal, and plus, I'd not be covered with support by Amazon at that point, so, uh, yeah... No thank ya. I think I'll pass.


Secondly, a very similar question, why can I not install any, that I know of, 3rd party voices like say, Eloquence from Code Factory? I tried, and again, it installed, but it's not showing up in TTS settings.


All I see are my US English Joey and Sally voices. Is it just that the TTS engine API's are not open to 3rd parties with Fire OS? If so, quite frankly? That sucks. Oh well though. Such, I guess is life.


Finally, I am an Aira  explorer. Does anyone have an APK of the app, or think from a regular Android device they could extract one for me? I'd do it myself with my S8 Plus, but honestly, I don't know of a good app for extracting free apps to APK's. Now if someone can recommend one? I'd appreciate it immensely, don't get me wrong. I tried getting the app through Google Play, but it says the Kindle isn't compatible. I find that really hard to believe. This thing's definitely got a camera, and it's definitely got a microphone. I know it does, as I installed Skype, and that works beautifully. And BTW, no. Aira's not in the Amazon app store, which honestly doesn't at all surprise me.


Any help greatly appreciated.


I dunno at this point. I have mixed feelings. I love this device, but maaan! It's really seeming to be limited on what you can put on it/configure on it. I mean, like, dang!


Chris.


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