In a message dated 12/12/2008 6:23:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, mramouni@xxxxxxxxx writes: So, what I'm really trying to do is give Cynthia some other ideas. She's open to them, but only to a certain extent. One of the things she believes is that the clicker training would confuse the dog. I, for one, think that's not giving the dog enough credit. Anyway, I really appreciate your suggestions its a process, learning about clicker training.. and remember, you dont actually have to use the clicker itself, just the principles..and those she is already using, just with heavier emphasis on other quadrants of learning tec hniques. h **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)