(VICT) Re: escallator travel
- From: Sheila Styron <sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:32:57 -0500
Good points all, Ann, giving Kitty and the rest of us more to consider.
The electrocution aspect is particularly chilling, isn't it? I have not
had a hard time with Midwest winter conditions negatively affecting the
two dogs I've worked since living here, and Kansas City winters are
undoubtedly not as severe as yours are. What to do? It seems like a much
easier decision with horses, except for the expense. Not to
underemphasize the serious nature of this topic, but I would love to see
some of the horse booties sometime.
Sheila Styron, President
Guide Dog Users, Inc.
816-363-3172
sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Edie
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:13 PM
To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: (VICT) Re: escallator travel
Hi, Sheila and Everyone,
Sheila, I think, if I had to choose between the risks of the dog burning
his
feet by walking on very hot pavement, getting cut by ice and getting
road
salt in cuts in his pads, and especially the risk of electricution from
walking over metal grates or wet pavement in older cities without boots
on,
and the risk of loss of perspiration surface area from wearing boots, I
would choose to put the boots on my dog. My Labrador, Bailey, often
ended
up limping in the winter from stepping on sharp chunks of ice and from
getting the road salt in cuts on his paws. He had skin allergies, so
his
paw pads were usually a bit raw from his licking and chewing them. I
don't
know for sure, but I would think that panting is a more important way of
shedding heat than is perspiration through the pads of the feet.
Of course, this assumes that the boots stay on and do not interfere with
the
dog's movement or otherwise injure the dog.
I haven't had to worry about protecting Panda's feet from ice and road
salt,
or from hot pavement. She has no trouble with either of these
conditions.
I don't know if hooves are good electrical insulators, but I hope they
are.
I might consider getting rubber soled shoes for Panda for extra traction
on
slippery surfaces. Maybe they would make her more comfortable about
walking
on wet wooden steps or other slippery stairs. So I am interested in
looking
into these shoes and boots.
Of course, there are also rubber soled shoes made especially for horses,
even little ones for minnies. But they are rather expensive, so I
haven't
felt the need to get them as of yet.
Best,
Ann
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sheila Styron" <sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:31 PM
Subject: (VICT) Re: escallator travel
> Kitty, sometimes I'm a bad girl and don't agree with all school
> recommendations. <smile> I wonder what their answer would be if asked
> this question specifically. I never have bothered to ask, because I
> have sort of made up my mind not to use boots, as I believe if you're
> careful and systematic, there isn't a strong need, at least not in my
> situation. Again, I know how upsetting it must have been to have
> Sunstar injured riding on an escalator. I would think hot weather
> boots would be more problematic than cold weather ones, as summer heat
> would be the concern I previously mentioned. I do believe GDB is
> pushing boots more these days, and I also realize people who live in
> Phoenix with guide or assistance dogs have a real problem with hot
> pavement. Let us know what you figure out and decide to do.
>
> Sheila Styron, President
> Guide Dog Users, Inc.
> 816-363-3172
> sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of kitty
> hevener
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:14 AM
> To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: (VICT) Re: escallator travel
>
>
> sheila, I have the same concern. However, I do know that some of the
> guide dog schools do issue boots for protection in extremem cold or
> heat. Per my
> vet's instructions, I did keep a boot on her bandaged foot whenever
she
> had
> to go outside. Per instructions, I also took it off when inside, so
teh
>
> foot could get some air. Right now, am contimplating all options, not
> ready to make a decision yet.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sheila Styron" <sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 6:53 AM
> Subject: (VICT) Re: escallator travel
>
>
> Isn't there some concern about the dog's ability to ventilate or
> perspire through booties as there are only so many body parts that
> help with this important biological function? I am no expert, but I
> haven't put much effort into training my dogs to wear boots as a
> result of this worry.
>
> Sheila Styron, President
> Guide Dog Users, Inc.
> 816-363-3172
> sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ridge
> Euler
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:07 AM
> To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: (VICT) Re: escallator travel
>
>
> hello, the neo-paws are great!! they have the summer ones that are
> made with mesh material and a hard rubber sole. they come in blue or
> red and are easy to get on after you get it down. I had some of the
> winter ones but gave them away with my Dobe. you need to get the
> right size and if you cant see the chart they have just draw an
> outline of the front and back feet and send it to them and they will
> get you the right size. if you need any other info just ask. Ridge
> and Buckley SD/Guide
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kitty hevener<mailto:khevener@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:
>
vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxx
> rg>
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:46 AM
> Subject: (VICT) Re: escallator travel
>
>
> Thank you for the resource. I will check it out in hopes that they
> have included enough of a text description to make it understandable.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Megatartix"
> <megatartix@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:megatartix@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> To:
>
<vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:vi-clicker-trainers@freelists.
> org>>
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:45 AM
> Subject: (VICT) Re: escallator travel
>
>
> Hello list,
> This is the second message I had posted about booties, which somehow
> didn't appear at my end. If you're receiving it twice, please forgive
> me. Hugs and Wags,
> O&P
>
>
>
> Hello Kitty and all,
> I have found the link where they have dog shoes and booties that
> sound interesting. Here it is.
>
> Can anyone on this list that can see at least a little, and that has
> experience with this sort of articles, evaluate this and let me know
> if it is worth trying? Sorry to bother you all...
> Thanks in advance, and cheers,
> Ollie & Pretty
>
>
> http://www.neopaws.com/catalog/index.php/language/it<http://www.neopaw
> s.
> com/catalog/index.php/language/it>
>
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