(VICT) Re: Serious issue with Gretch
- From: Sheila Styron <sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:15:07 -0500
Diane, I don't think it's been hot enough that Gretch burned her paws.
It's hit the nineties and been quite humid, but I've noticed no dancing
or discomfort whatsoever anywhere I've been this summer. Since she's
been so fine since Thursday, I find it hard to believe I won't be able
to work through this, and I am not going back for a few days and I'll be
really careful and not in a hurry when we do return to that
intersection.
Sheila Styron, President
Guide Dog Users, Inc.
816-363-3172
sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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[mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DIANNE B.
PHELPS AND PRIMROSE
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 5:59 PM
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Subject: (VICT) Re: Serious issue with Gretch
Sheila,
That makes me wonder, Could Gretchen have burned her paws on that
particular
crossing at some point in time? I have had dogs wo reacted poorly to the
pavement, especially black top in the streets really poorly, making them
do
things they would not normally do with respect to crossings and the
like.
There may even be a place which conducts more heat than where she was
taking
you.
These along with other training tecniques are all things to consider in
trying to sort this all out. I am glad to see that she is working
solidly in
other places. There may really be something with this particular
crossing or
an incident which has sparked this concern of hers. I think I would work
with it gradually to see if you can get her through it.
I still say, if she can handle a a Renaissance fair with all that goes
on
there, she has something going. If she was really going to cave in, I
would
have thought that would do it.
Dianne and Primrose
----- Original Message -----
From: "kitty hevener" <khevener@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: (VICT) Re: Serious issue with Gretch
> Sheila, one time my dog did not cross an intersection correctly. In
> fact,
> I
> discovered it as a car was passing on my left and the driver asked if
I
> knew
> I was in middle of intersection. To this day, I really don't know why
she
> did it. She had always done it perfect up until and ever since then.
I
> also wonder if perhaps she was reacting to the heaton the pavement. I
> don't
> know about your weather, btu wee have had about 5 days where the temp
is
> over 100 dgs. I don't even think about asking my girl to cross a
street,
> cuz I don't even want to be out. In addition to the temp, we have the
> kind
> of moist air that you can wear smile!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sheila Styron" <sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:41 AM
> Subject: (VICT) Re: Serious issue with Gretch
>
>
> Kitty, Gretch has been fine with this intersection ever since her
> original period of being uncomfortable with serious guide work in
> general when I brought her home in March of 2006. until last Thursday.
> As I mentioned before, the combination of heat and wind which I know
> could have been the catalyst on another meltdown day over a year ago
> now, and repercussions from the recent truck incident in my driveway
> may have somehow combined in Gretch's mind to cause her to behave as
> she did. It has also been suggested that as a result she simply
> decided to see if she could get away with being disobedient because
> she didn't want to guide me across those streets at those particular
> times last Thursday which is another possibility, as the mild
> correction I administered did in fact get her to move forward,
> although doing so unsafely by bowing with all her little frightened
> reticent heart.
>
> Sheila Styron, President
> Guide Dog Users, Inc.
> 816-363-3172
> sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of kitty
> hevener
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:21 PM
> To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: (VICT) Re: Serious issue with Gretch
>
>
> sheila, Does Gretchin only have the problem at this intersection/
> After
>
> reading your subsequent posts, it sounds like she does okay in other
> places. How does she do at the intersection when it is not windy or
> the combination
> of windy and hot? I also wonder if perhaps something had happened at
> the
> intersection ie, perhaps there had been an earlier accident and they
> still
> had some safety cones in the intersection, could they have been
redoing
> the
> crosswalk lines?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sheila Styron" <sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:11 AM
> Subject: (VICT) Re: Serious issue with Gretch
>
>
> Because of Gretch's much more reasonable behavior everywhere since the
> morning and evening encounters with the scary intersection at Warnall
> and Gregory on Thursday, I don't believe her issues are health
> related, but I will still have her thoroughly checked out by my vet
> soon. Isn't Warnall an ugly name?
>
> Sheila Styron, President
> Guide Dog Users, Inc.
> 816-363-3172
> sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:07 PM
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> Subject: (VICT) Re: Serious issue with Gretch
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/24/2007 1:54:41 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: So I'll certainly have her checked
> out as thoroughly as possible,
>
>
> If its the wind that is making things worse.. maybe an ear infection?
> It is always a good idea to clear health if you get a behavior change.
>
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