Karyn, Thanks for your input. Even though I have taught Mickey to go slightly into me, he naturally would put his front paws on a curb or step and stop. Like he was telling, "I really know what to do better than you!" It is probably why I couldn't get him to work my way. LOL! I was confusing my poor dog when he knew the better way! I haven't done a trainignsession in guiding with Mickey, I jut put the harness on and go. Meaning when I'm in a hurry to go some place. I need to set time to work a curb, rather than only work a curb maybe twice when we are going some where. I thnk if we can break down the exercise, he and I will start to click. I hope that stepping on the curb or step will work. I think my handle is a little too short and I'm worry that I might trip on the curb. But is a dog suppose to slow down before a step to give you a heads up? I may have to ask Julie for a longer handle. It just seems it should be longer, but I don't know and how much? I know this is for me to determine, but I don't have easy access to different sizes to try out. -- Christy Hill A'Mickey *************** http://home.att.net/~care4k9