(VICT) Re: Perplexing behavior

  • From: "Jackie Rumble" <jackie.rumble@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 07:22:19 -0400

Hi Shelley,
Can you try where you retrain her that you disapearing is not necessarially 
a bad thing?
Try when you are at home, putting the dog on tie-down, not saying anything 
and just walking out of the room and coming back in after a while if you 
don't hear scratching.  If you hear scratching, clap your hands really loud 
or make a loud noise that sways that's enough, knock it off! Then try again, 
maybe a bit less longer so she succeeds, tw seconds, great, three great and 
slowly up the time you are gone with no scratching... no scratching means 
treats and you returning.
I hope this makes cense.
You can write me off list at:
Jackie and Cola
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "dpservicedogs" 
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:24 PM
Subject: (VICT) Perplexing behavior

> Hi everyone,
> I have a very perplexing behavior and not quite sure how to handle it, but
> as it is getting worse, we need to address it before it escalates any
> further.
> First of all Guinevere is clicker trained as you all know.
> She is also used to corrections but I use a balanced approach if I can.
> Guinevere and I have a very strong bond it seems.  And this is posing a
> problem.
> Ever since I received her over a year ago, she has had some separation
> issues.  I heard from the vet that she pulled out her tail hair in the
> kennels because she was left alone in quarantine for a week.  Her puppy
> raising has been kind of interesting, owing to the fact that frankly I 
> think
> perhaps she didn't get all the experiences that most dogs do, or else she 
> um
> didn't learn from them, smile.
> But I digress.
> Since I received her, she has a very annoying behavior, that happens 
> mainly
> when she is left alone, normally on tie down, but she will do it if she is
> free.  She does it when I leave her.  I could say something to her or not,
> doesn't make a difference.  I could go down the hall, or be gone for 
> several
> hours.  It doesn't matter.  When she is left alone, she will scratch, 
> under
> her chin, or around her neck with her back foot.  At first I thought it 
> was
> allergies but now am convinced it is psychological in nature.  She will 
> even
> do it if for example I tie her dog in my cubicle and go to use the 
> restroom,
> she will start scratching.
> Now.... I know she is getting rewarded for this, because she will scratch
> and scratch and scratch, until she is "touched" by someone.
> I used to talk to her to stop it, but I am afraid that I may have
> inadvertently rewarded the behavior.
> It is getting to be a huge problem both at my parent's home, and at my
> office, as her scratching distracts my coworkers, who are dog lovers and 
> are
> unfortunately giving her attention for her to stop the behavior.
> What can I do?
> how can I get this behavior to stop.
> The typical separation anxiety solutions, the gradual build up of time 
> away
> and the like aren't working.  She also can't be left with a stuffed kong
> every time I want to use the restroom and if I take her with me I am
> reinforcing the problem.
> Is there such a thing as a too strong bond to your service dog?
> Help!
> Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A., VRT
> And Guinevere: Golden Lady Guide Dog
> guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx
> Guide Dogs for the Blind
> Alumni Association
> www.guidedogs.com
> Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness, 
> consideration
> and cooperation can finally lead men to the dawn of eternal peace. -Dwight
> D. Eisenhower, U.S. general and 34th president (1890-1969)

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