Is there a hand signal for come, stay? Jackie and Cola Want to see what we are up to: check out our live journal at: http://jackie_rumble.livejournal.com join dogs-with-jobs at: dogs-with-jobs-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Join Technical-support at: technical-support-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ridge Euler Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:01 AM To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: (VICT) Re: Non-verbal cues-ideas needed. Hi Sandy, the way I was taught obedience was first with hand signals. sit= a palm up moving it slightly up. down is a palm down moving down. they seem to learn the hand signals before the voice cues and it is easy. Ridge and Buckley Guide/SD ----- Original Message ----- From: Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx<mailto:Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx> To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:05 AM Subject: (VICT) Non-verbal cues-ideas needed. Hi all, I have been off list for a bit because of a new neuro disorder. In a nutshell, my breathing and vocal cord functions are out of sync and it makes me have a hard time breathing because my vocal cords cut off my breath in mid-breath and I make sharp noisy wheezes every 1-3 seconds. It also chops up my talking because of the sudden need to gasp. Probably it is related to my eye spasm disorder but they arent sure. The "reset" mechanism in my brain isnt working right for either problem.. anyhow, that leads me to my next question..one of the treatments they are discussing is to partially paralyze my vocal cords. This will mean that I cannot talk or will have some difficulty talking. Since the drug is only temporary, it will have to be repeated every few months for the rest of my life..causing the voice issue each time. It is scary though because if I react with swelling like I did when they used it around my eyes the last time, it can be life-threatening..we are going to try a trial run on my bad eye on Monday.. Do you all think it would be possible to retrain Alex with some non-verbal cues? What cues do you use verbally and do you have any ideas of how to cue them non-verbally? I am trying hard to maintain my optimism and humor but it is damn hard.. At this point I would choose being non-verbal to the incessant difficulty breathing and the noise ,embarassment of the stridor. People are downright mean sometimes. I have been ridiculed and demeanedthe past two weeks by the public,my coworkers, my primary care Dr, the ER nurses/interns and the public on busses and trains...Public Ignorance is hell for the person who knows what is happening but cant control their own body. I finally told one person, who nastily kept asking me why I kept making that noise and that it was creepy.. "I cant control it and thanks for your show of compassion!".. I hope she stops and thinks next time she is so rude and insensitive. Then again, I am losing my faith in humanity.. cynicism is setting in.. Sandy Foushee Infinite Paws-Abilities Training and Service Dogs Teamed with Alexandra Guide/Service Dog Colorado Service/Assistance Dog Club - Trainer.- ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com<http://www.aol.com/>