Shelly, I am missing something here. What did Michelle P use the shelf liner and bell for? What did she attach it to? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 5:25 PM Subject: (VICT) Re: Interesting to me I think because sight is so emphasized on a lot of the books on Clicker that the concept of doing without sight is frightening to a lot of traininers, smile. I am not a pureist, so I don't mold a behavior from capture, which would be difficult, I do use some Khoeler in that i will kind of encourage the dog by using lures, or some pressure, either say on their rump or on a paw, or I will do a physical tap or other signal to them to do a behavior I want. This way i control everything that the dog is doing. But am also rewarding what i want the dog to do, and once I show him what behavior I want then I wait for the dog to make the decision to do the behavior and there fore get clicked and treated for it, and I fade the lure. One thing that Michelle P. showed us at the Clicker training session at the GDB reunion was a small piece of shelf liner, with a bell attached to it. Simple cheap, you can make it any color for better contrast if you can see contrast, have seen that shelf line in almost every color, the bells are cheap, and she used wire to attach it. Plus you heard when the dog touched it. Was a nice thing. Laser pointers I have been told are great for teaching targetting if you can't physically use a target stick. Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Alumni Association Board www.guidedogs.com Dog ownership is like a rainbow. Puppies are the joy at one end. Old dogs are the treasure at the other. Carolyn Alexander ----- Original Message ----- From: "dmgina" <dmgina@xxxxxxxxx> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:26 AM Subject: (VICT) Interesting to me I just got information back from the school I trained from, that they are concerned about blind person teaching clicker training. Now this doesn't mean I will stop here, but since it is hard for them as a sighted person, then it would be hard for us. I shared that I was getting ticks from blind persons, and that I felt the blind could teach the blind pretty well. What are some of your thoughts? --Dar wishing a backTpack call me at 406-259-1124 Every Saint has a past, Every sinner has a future , -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/736 - Release Date: 3/27/2007 4:38 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/736 - Release Date: 3/27/2007 4:38 PM