(VICT) Re: Clicker Training at GDB
- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:04:24 -0400
Hey kitty,
GEB now uses the GL in their training, and are more interested in more
positive methods.
Smile.
Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
and Judson, guiding golden
juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
Graduate Alumni Association Board
www.guidedogs.com
Dog ownership is like a rainbow.
Puppies are the joy at one end.
Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
Carolyn Alexander
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From: "kitty hevener" <khevener@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:38 PM
Subject: (VICT) Re: Clicker Training at GDB
Diane, I hope you are right. When I was trained with my first guide dog in
2000, my school, geb, was not doing anything with positive training. Leash
corrections were the "in thing". It went against the grain of how I ever
interacted with a dog, and seemed counter intuitive to some of my
educational principles. Mine were never effective as well. My dog was
quick to pick up on that fact. After she showed me what a wild child she
could be when we visited the vet without my trainer, I had to find another
way cuz I was not going to give her back to the school. Her guiding was
excellent, so was mainly dealing with behavioral issues. My vet hooked me
up with a certified animal behaviorst and dog trainer. Was so happy to
discover that her approach to dogs was what I had basically been doing all
my life. She also showed me the gl (gentle leader) which is my tool of
choice. Hopefully, when the time comes for teh next dog, I won't have to
hastle re leash corrections and will get the positive training.
----- Original Message -----
From: "dlshotwell2" <dlshotwell2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: (VICT) Re: Clicker Training at GDB
>>Dian, couldn't agree with you more. R u an alumni of gdb? I understand
that they still do use leash corrections. Do you know if that is still
true?<
Hi Kitty,
No, I am not an alumni. My interest stems from assistance dog teaching
passion and my mothers blindness as well as involvement with members of
Golden Paw ADC members.
I am a strong advocate for positive reinforcement teaching especially in
assistance dog teaching. I have a number of puppy raisers from TSE in the
local chapter of Golden Paw ADC and have high hopes of them moving further
from aversives. I understand that the example of GDB has been quite an
example and that TSE is now working on incorporating some of this into their
program...this is third hand information... but I am excited by the
prospect.
The cross over process can be just that...a process. I did speak with the
trainer about the fact that there are still conversions in the works. The
implementation and teaching of the puppy homes is a major step and still in
the development stages...at the time I spoke to them. But this is in the
planning.
I too am a cross over trainer of almost thirty years...
I still attach the leash to my wheelchair or belt to avoid the muscle
trained reflex of the popping of the leash.
They are innovators and will move into this process as fully as possible I
am sure. Their courage and dedication they have shown to date has left me
with this belief.
I was told they will be adding more information to their website in the near
future and I look forward to seeing that.
Best Wishes & Wags,
Diane & Raven
http://AssistanceDogJournal.net
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Golden_Paw_ADC/
"My Assistance Dog is not my whole life, but she makes my life whole" ~Me
"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened."
~Anatole France
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