Ok, now I get why Mickey isn't really pulling full in his harness. I tend to repond to the harness like a leash. I wasn't thinking about it but I was pulling him back like I do on a leash with the harness. UGH! BadChristy, like I shold know better not to do that, but facing it was the hardest to do since I so advocate training with all positive reinforcement. So now i need to careflly rethink how I work with Mickey and pay attention not on him, but more on what I am doing! Christy -- Christy Hill A'Mickey *************** http://home.att.net/~care4k9