Hey everybody - Yes. If it's within three miles it counts in Virginia Beach (or whatever coastal county you're dealing with). I didn't make this up, by the way... check out this page... skip the abbreviations and go to the discussion below... http://www.wfo-cbrc.org/cbrc/counties.html ... especially the "four zones" discussion, which is a nice summary. For county listing I take the most conservative approach, which is only to count things within the first zone (i.e. three miles), though I could be persuaded to change this in time. For state / ABA listing I follow the ABA rules. Hence there are a few pelagic species that I've seen in Virginia or other states but that I don't list in any particular county. Yet. CMS If you see the Clarke's Grebe off of Ft. Story, will you count it on your VA Beach list? If so, then where does the VA Beach boundary end? Interesting thoughts... va_co_birding is hosted by FreeLists. To change your settings or unsubscribe, visit www.freelists.org To post to the list (subscribers only), send email to va_co_birding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx