[va-richmond-general] Re: unusual mammal in Goochland

  • From: "Michael Shapiro" <sc.tanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:29:38 -0400

I don't think so. I've seen otters before. However, it could very well have
been a mink, then. Just a light-colored one.

Michael

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Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: unusual mammal in Goochland


> I know that area. It's really not that far from a few creeks. I would
> not rule out an otter. They are more common than most people realize.
> Perhaps the angle/light made the tail look bushy from a distance?
>
>
>
> >     According to the website, it was either a Long-tailed Weasel or
> a Mink.
> > Minks, however, are primarily aquatic or live near water. If there
> was water
> > near that area, I didn't see it. For anyone at all familiar with
> Goochland,
> > it was crossing Fairground Road, near Broad Street, not long after
> you turn
> > on to Fairground from Broad. Does anyone know if there is a pond
> near there?
> >     The animal wasn't in direct sunlight, but I didn't notice the
> light
> > coloring under the throat that seems easily visible on a Long-tailed
> Weasel,
> > and the LTW is not as heavy as a mink, and so wouldn't look as
> "bushy" -
> > especially not in the tail. It's also smaller than a mink. Minks are
> > generally darker, though they can be brown. If there is no nearby
> wetland,
> > perhaps it was an escaped mink? Anyone know of any mink farms in
> that area?
> > The overall size and shape was right for a mink, even if the habitat
> did not
> > appear to be. It couldn't have been anything BUT a Mink or
> Long-tailed
> > Weasel. As I've said, I've never seen one, but as it crossed the
> road, my
> > first thought was, "What the heck is THAT??" as it was so different
> in size
> > and shape form other animals I HAVE seen, and knew it was the right
> size and
> > shape for some sort of mustelid. Thoughts, anyone?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kathy Kreutzer" <k-kreutzer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 8:19 PM
> > Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: unusual mammal in Goochland
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> http://www.enature.com/partners/birdsandblooms/localguide/localguide_b
> b_
> > >
> display.asp?zipcode=23832&neuter=&showType=5&shapeName=&curGroupID=5&c
> ur
> > > FamilyID=547
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you go to enature.com, enter your zip and look under mammals,
> there
> > > are photos  - these were listed for Chesterfield (link above, but
> not
> > > sure it will work...)- could be likely suspects!
> > > Kathy Kreutzer
> > > Chesterfield
> > >
> > >
> > > Northern River Otter
> > > Lutra canadensis (Lontra canadensis)
> > > Dark brown above; paler belly. Throat often silver gray. Ears and
> eyes
> > > small. Prominent whitish whiskers. Long tail thick at base,
> gradually
> > > tapering to a point. Feet webbed. Male larger than female. 35-52"
> > > (889-1,313 mm); tail 11 7/8 -20" (300-507 mm).
> > >
> > >
> > > Long-tailed Weasel
> > > Mustela frenata
> > > Brown above; white to yellow below. Tail long, brown with black
> tip.
> > > Feet brownish. In Southwest, white on face. In north in winter,
> fur
> > > white except for black tail tip. Male about twice size of female.
> 11-22"
> > > (280-550 mm); tail 3 1/8-6 3/8" (80-160 mm).
> > >
> > >
> > > Mink
> > > Mustela vison
> > > Sleek, with lustrous chocolate-brown to black fur; white spotting
> on
> > > chin and throat. Tail long, somewhat bushy. Male larger than
> female. 19
> > > 3/8"-28" (491-720 mm); tail 6 1/4-7 5/8" (158-194 mm).
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: va-richmond-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:va-richmond-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Michael
> > > Shapiro
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 8:18 PM
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> > > Subject: [va-richmond-general] unusual mammal in Goochland
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, all -
> > >     While driving around Goochland at around 6pm, I saw some kind
> of
> > > mustelid (animals in the mink/otter/weasel family) cross the road.
> It
> > > was long and slender, low to the ground, golden brown (so it
> seemed from
> > > where I was) with a long bushy tail. Does anyone know what
> mustelids
> > > live in Goochland that this might describe? It was too long to be
> a cat
> > > or a groundhog/woodchuck (too skinny for a woodchuck, too, and the
> tail
> > > wasn't right). Are there weasels in Goochland? How about martens?
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