It's not unusual to see them as late as early November. Usually they're quiet so they often go undetected. Wendy Ealding Powhatan County In a message dated 10/10/2007 12:38:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jjfdc1@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Is it late for this one? It was swallowing fat, green caterpillars up in one of the big oaks near the barn swallows’ bridge. Jan ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com