Gerry, There is a gate on your left about half way down Turkey Island Road. I stopped here first and could hear immediately a Dickcissel singing. After scanning briefly I was able to see the bird perched about 100 yds out. The other bird (or two) was further up just before a road that goes off to the left. This bird was also singing and was much closer to the road - probably 50 - 100 feet. I observed from the road as the weedy field where the Dickcissels are singing is "posted". Hope this helps. Arun Bose Richmond, VA You are subscribed to VA-Richmond-General. To unsubscribe, send email to va-richmond-general-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. To adjust other settings (vacation, digest, etc.) please visit, //www.freelists.org/list/va-richmond-general.