I'm not much of a wildlife buff, but I did a google image search on the phrase "gray fox". What I found were pictures of gray foxes with lots of reddish orange. I found the paragraph below on gray foxes from an Illinois website. The paragraph also mentions gray foxes as having reddish orange bands. I don't know if this is what you mean by red. "From a distance, the gray fox looks like a small dog. Adults are 35 to 44 inches in length. Weights range from 5 to 14 pounds. The sides of its neck, backs of its ears, and underside of its tail are rusty yellow. A reddish-orange band separates the whitish throat and belly from the upper sides and back, which are a salt and pepper gray. A black mane made up of long, course hairs extends along the top of the tail from its base to its tip, which is also black." www.inhs.uiuc.edu/dnr/ fur/species/grayfox.html The link below shows a Virginia gray fox with plenty of red. plank-road.com/ indexb/fox.htm By the way, a google image search is a great way to see additional pictures of a species. It's a great way to supplement your bird book when bird's don't quite look like one of the pictures. Diane Bumpass ----- Original Message ----- From: "ben saunders" <betsyben@xxxxxxxx> To: <va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 6:10 PM Subject: [va-richmond-general] Sunday birding and fox question ..... > We also saw two fox, one gray and one with red on his front half > and gray on the back. Do they hybridize or was this two- toned fox just > growing out his winter coat? Are they all gray in the winter? > > Betsy and Ben Saunders You are subscribed to VA-Richmond-General. To unsubscribe, send email to va-richmond-general-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. To adjust other settings (vacation, digest, etc.) please visit, //www.freelists.org/list/va-richmond-general.