hey on the 2nd of april (saturday after easter!) State DI is in Casper. I think I'll help them judge, I will definently pick up info for any of the rest of you who are interested. I know Seth has a task then, but as for the rest of you... they do need instant challenge judges especialy. This oportunity, if properly exploited by we here at the university, would help us as a team. love and no bake cookies ian