This is so cool! I just ran it on the game I posted here last night.
Basically, I avoided mistakes and won the game with sound play, but there
were a couple of places where I could have substantially improved my
position even more. One of which involved forcing Black to sacrifice the
exchange in order to save his King which I missed. But there was only one
place where Black could have improved his position, and he would have had to
abandon the pawn on e6, and try to start an counter attack with BB7, Nd7-f6,
a5-a4. But even here White could still maintain his iron grip on the center
and forced the King side to collapse. This is very interesting. I will use
this tool frequently.
Thanks so much!
Konchog
-----Original Message-----
From: usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lucas Radaelli
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 11:30 AM
To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Chess engine for WinBoard
Sure, it would be something as follows:
Open crafty with something like windows + r, type crafty, it will put you
in a prompt.
From here, it can be:
annotate game.pgn w 0-999 0.3 20
Important things to keep in mind:
- It is useful to copy the path of the file that you are trying to annotate.
Locate it in its folder, shift + f10, and copy it as path.
When putting the path to the file in the annotate command inside the cmd
prompt, you can hit alt + space, go to edit, and select the past option
(note, control + v does not work inside the prompt, so thats why this
trick). Also remember that the copy as path will put the file name inside
quotes, and you need to remove them when pasting to the prompt.
- After the file name, you have the option to select the color. Use w for
white only, b for black only and wb for both.
- The third option is the move that it will start annotating. If you want
everything from move 5, you put 5-999, only moves 5 to 7 5-7.
- the fourth option describes the margin that you want the evaluation to be
made. It is measured in pawns. So, a value of 0.3 means that that move was
better in 3 /10 of a pawn.
- The fith option is the time that you want the engine to think in each move
in seconds.
On 16/07/2016 09:31, Karma Könchog Jungné wrote:
http://download.chessbase.com/Download/ChessBaseReader/Setup.msi
I am somewhat puzzled by the command line parameters. Suppose I have
a game named game.pgn, and I played White, and I want to annotate
it. Could you give me a sample command line to give crafty to make
this work?
Thanks
Patrick/konchog
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[mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Lucas
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*Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2016 12:30 PM
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*Subject:* [usbca_chess] Re: Chess engine for WinBoard
glad that you made it!
As a side note, you may want to check the crafty documentation, a pdf
inside the crafty folder, specially the command called annotate. You
can run crafty in command line mode and ask it to annotate a game of
yours, so that it will put scores for your moves and suggest better
alternatives. Very good when analyzing your own games. It generates a
.pgn.can file, which you can open with notepad and check the output.
Side lines are annotated with comments inside the pgn.
One of the most accessible ways that I have found to analyze my games.
On 08/07/2016 15:47, Karma Könchog Jungné wrote:
After a little more tinkering, I eliminated the need to state the
file name explicity. Put the executable for the chess engine in
the same directory as winboard. You still need to add winboard
as a parameter to be passed to crafty for it to work properly.
Thanks for all the help. This is meant in gratitude, not sarcasm.
konchog
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*Subject:* [usbca_chess] Re: Chess engine for WinBoard
Patrick,
You need to add the path to crafty into a configuration file in
winboard, the process is explained here:
http://hgm.nubati.net/xboard/winboard/help/html/20.htm
On 07/07/2016 09:32, Karma Könchog Jungné wrote:
WinBoard was not the problem. I wanted to install tsome new
chess engines, including crafty and a weaker program like
golem to practice with and none of the links in the web page
provided seem to work, and I did find crafty 20.0 last night,
and I am able to run it from a command window, but I cant
seem to plug it into WinBoard.
Also, You might want to turn off the screen echo in your JAWS
WinBoard configuration file in order to shut up the clock.
Patrick
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*Subject:* [usbca_chess] Chess engine for WinBoard
Hello Patrick,
I got WinBoard to work perfectly. I used this 3 step process.
1. Activate this program (WinBoard Startup Dialog).
2. Press down arrow until (Play against a chess engine or
match two engines) then press the tab key.
A few other choices exist.
Just view or edit game files
Use an Internet Chess Server
3. Press down arrow to pick this chess engine in the list
(fruit_21 /fd="Fruit" -fUCI) then press the enter key.
Edward
In a message dated 7/6/2016 5:42:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight
Time, venkkj@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:venkkj@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
I tried some of the links in the chess engine
introduction, and none of them seem to work. Krafty and
golen in particular.
I did find a list of chess engines, and downloaded one,
and all I got was a ".wri" fuke, which does not seem to be
recognized by winboard.
Thanks
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Lucas Radaelli
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:15 PM
To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Fritz and Chessbase
a site with 10000 tactical positions in fen format:
http://www.wtharvey.com/
take your time to read through it, it is splited in many,
many categories, but it is useful.
Setting up winboard with a chess engine:
http://horizonchess.com/FAQ/Winboard/Winboard1.html
and this link is also useful:
http://hgm.nubati.net/xboard/winboard/help/html/20.htm
In case you fall into any problems, just shout :)
On 06/07/2016 13:27, Karma Könchog Jungné wrote:
> You can use WinBoard with different chess engines?
Where can I see some documentation for this? Playing the
computer was an easy problem to solve for me. I used to
have a licensed copy of K-Chess, but that was years ago,
and the computer I had it on is dead. My main training
regime was tactics. I had a FEN file with over 700
positions in it that worked nicely in K-Chess, but again
that is on the computer that is dead. I did share it with
someone on this board and I am hoping she will send it
back to me.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> [mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Lucas Radaelli
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:48 AM
> To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Fritz and Chessbase
>
>
> Well, if you are trying to play against the computer, my
suggestions are:
>
> 1. Shredder for i Phone lets you select the playing
strength of the computer and it is fully accessible.
>
> 2. For windows, you can use winboard and set it up with
several chess engines and play against it. You can tweak
the configurations to configure the playing strength. You
can use, for example, crafty that is open source.
>
>
> 3. Lechess, the website, is also somewhat accessible.
>
>
> For tactics:
>
> - I am helping a developer to make a website that
contains tactics accessible. Hope to have news soon.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 06/07/2016 12:20, Karma Könchog Jungné wrote:
>> That really is a shame. It is so easy nowadays to make
applications accessible to the blind. All you have to do
is to stick to the Microsoft Office programming guide
lines, and avoid getting too fancy with the interface.
Chess Titan is so boring and predictable, and so
vulnerable to overloaded positions. Overload it hard
enough, and it starts throwing away pieces, including
queens and rooks. I did manage an elegant mating attack
using two knoghts and two bishops--no major pieces at
all--all four pieces were necessary.
>>
>> patrick
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> [mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Lucas Radaelli
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 9:14 AM
>> To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Fritz and Chessbase
>>
>>
>> Well, I ran into the same problems that you are having.
I tried to use a free version of chessbase with NVDA, and
some items on the screen were readable, but that's all.
The rest was totally unusable.
>>
>> Maybe it depends on the version (I need to double check
which one I was trying at home), but I don't expect it to
be accessible.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/07/2016 18:11, Karma Könchog Jungné wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I downloaded the demo version of Fritz 12, and found
that, at least as far as I could tell, it is completely
useless to the blind. JAWS cursor could not find the menu
items in order to configure the multimedia settings.
There is an article on the Braille Chess Association of
Britain's webpage that says Fritz 14 and Fritz 15 are
accessible, with the JAWS cursor and some tweaking, to the
blind. I am also interested in learning if there is a way
to use chessbase by blind users.
>>>
>>> many thankks
>>> patrick
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> [mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Chris Ross
>>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 6:32 PM
>>> To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: reading cbv files?
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> A lot of traffic on this list and the sister-ones.
>>> Can I suggest that folk write to individuals instead
of the lists with personal suggestions?
>>>
>>> Lucas, save the CBV into a different format. In your
chess-base or Fritz or whatever you are using, save the
book/cbv file into a PGN file, which is one single file.
This is more manageable than a bunch of files and will
allow you to manipulate it in other applications.
>>>
>>> So, save it in a PGN format, as that is easy and
allows you to word-process it.
>>> Then, open up the PGN file in WordPad or Notepad, and
you can go through it in a Word-Processing method and
edit/format at will. Learn how the punctuation is set out,
to indicate when variations are suggested and sub-lines
are opened and closed.
>>>
>>> Can I stress though, as I have done many a time on
this list, that reading these books, reading such things,
is a useful, but not the absolute way to improve ones
chess. Again, without wanting to repeat myself, get a
basic repertoire of openings, a foundation of a way you
need to set out in a positional sense from the outset. Get
that basic setting done, then, you can move onto
middle-game tactics and strategic structures.
>>>
>>> I gain the impression that your focus, objective
approach is not centred in a productive, or, effective manner.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> [mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Lucas
>>> Radaelli
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:22 PM
>>> To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: reading cbv files?
>>>
>>>
>>> I can try to mail the blog author.... :) On 30/06/2016
15:17, Mark R Hague wrote:
>>>> I don't suppose you could get a pgn version of the book?
>>>> Mark.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Lucas Radaelli" <lucasradaelli@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lucasradaelli@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> To: <usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:01 PM
>>>> Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: reading cbv files?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am a computer science graduate and still getting
problems....
>>>> jokes aside, I tried openning the encoded cbv file
by hand to see
>>>> if the format was parseable somehow, but it is not
the case. Cbv
>>>> turns out to be a closed format of the chessbase
program, so it is
>>>> not possible to write a script apparently to convert it.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, thanks for the comments, I will keep trying
different alternatives.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30/06/2016 13:34, Mark R Hague wrote:
>>>>> HI Lucas,
>>>>> my experience is that it all depends on how the
chesssbase code
>>>>> has been compiled by the author. Unfortunately the more
>>>>> complicated the code is the less likely it is to be
accessible. I
>>>>> get the impression that older and therefore simpler
chessbase CDs
>>>>> are more accessible as I believe so is the chessbase
magazines produced in the chessbase format.
>>>>> Try using different screen readers and if you can
try it on a
>>>>> different version of windows. that might give you
better results.
>>>>> One can also try and tweek the chessbase reader
settings to make
>>>>> it announce moves which can sometimes help. Also
many chessbase
>>>>> CDs contain individual vidio files which can be
played separately
>>>>> often located in a folder called html or pocket
fritz. It is
>>>>> regretable that you need to be a Computer Science
graduate to
>>>>> attempt to read chessbase files if you are visually
impaired.
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Mark.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Lucas Radaelli" <lucasradaelli@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lucasradaelli@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> To: <usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:38 PM
>>>>> Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: reading cbv files?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> did not have success using chessbase and nvda.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can open the book, navigate in its contents, but
opening any
>>>>> item on the list brings me to a window that it is
inaccessible,
>>>>> where I suppose that the content of the book is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone able to use chessbase with a screen reader?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29/06/2016 08:23, Jim wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> It looks like Google was my friend. See this link.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/29/16, Mark R Hague
<Mark.hague.list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:Mark.hague.list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>> try and use the free chessbase reader program as a
first try.
>>>>>>> Most chessbase cds include a free copy of this
program.
>>>>>>> Mark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Lucas Radaelli (Redacted sender
"lucasradaelli" for DMARC)
>>>>>>> To: US BCA
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 2:24 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [usbca_chess] reading cbv files?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reading about the sicilian dragon on the Internet,
I came
>>>>>>> across this book, that is available for download
for free.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is in cbv format. Googling a little bit more it
says that
>>>>>>> this is the chessbase format.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have chessbase yet, and I am not planning
to buy it very soon...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, was wondering what program you use to read
cbv, and if it is
>>>>>>> accessible or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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