Chris and everyone..
I agree. I don't announce checkmate until I've made and announced the
move that puts my opponent's king there.
I've played at both club and national events where "check" and "mate"
are the only two things that are announced during a game unless the
players quietly discuss "draw." But, as far as including "check" or
"mate" along with the announcement of my move per the rules for blind
players, I say them as a courtesy.
David
On 10/19/18, Chris Ross <c.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ah, so should that open up the further discussion to when you should
announce mate, in that, “mate in X moves” or even when you check-mate your
opponent, on your move, should you announce “move” and then
“check-mate/mate”?
I never do. I make my move, hit the clock and wait for my opponent to
comment/shake my hand.
Which then leads onto the question to whether a player should announce
“check”. I know a player does not have to, has no obligation, but should
one?
Again, in the past 10 years, I rarely, if ever, announce “check”. And I find
that when I play internationally, players never ever announce “check”.
I encounter it in local league games from time to time, but never in 4NCL,
the London league or I would say against ECF-graded players 200+ (ELO 2200
plus).
Sure, against a strong opponent, there is no need to announce check, but is
that a culture thing, a traditional, trend, politeness or something else?
AN intriguing question to all points...
As an example only. In the recent Team World Cup recently in Bulgaria, I
noticed that all of my team mates announced “check” when it was indeed
check. But yet, not once on the top board, where I was playing, against a
lower ranked player, or the stronger players, was check once mentioned.
Again, is that because it was top board or just not the thing to do on board
1.
Interesting questions...
Cheers,
Chris
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Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Chess Problems From Braille Chess Magazine
Charles et al,
You would normally be notified of whose move it is and the object of the
problem. However, it is very rare in a problem (defined as an artificial or
constructed position rather than a real position which would then go by the
appellation of puzzle) for it to be Black to move. Generally it should say
either White to play and mate in x moves, or White to play and win, or White
to play and draw. The latter two may also be regarded as "studies".
I had a friend who sent me a problem the other day with Black only having
two pieces and White an enormous material plus. Because he hadn't told me I
assumed it was a mate in two and quickly, or so I thought, solved the
problem and wrote back. He then told me it was a mate in three, whereupon I
found the subtle riposte to my solution. I readjusted my reply accordingly
and then checked on Deep Rybka. That quickly came up with three 3-move
solutions, including mine, so the problem was actually 'cooked'. A 'cook' in
a chess.problem occurs when there are multiple solutions that the composer
did not intend to happen.
At Paignton one year I was sitting next to an amateur problemist who
announced 'mate in three'. His discomfited opponent (White) retorted "Well,
play it then!" and the composer played move 1 of his intended sequence.
There came the forced reply, then move 2 and White resigned. Meanwhile I was
grinning away because I had seen the mate in two! The moral: Never announce
a mate just in case you're wrong. Play it out.
Hope this helps now and in the future.
Regards,
Tyson
On 19 October 2018 at 22:00 Charles Rivard <wee1sman@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:wee1sman@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
One thing I notice about their chess problems is that they never let you
know whose move it is. Is it always White’s move?
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
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To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Jim
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Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Chess Problems From Braille Chess Magazine
Hello Jim,
Quite happy to help. Just bear in mind the time difference between the UK
and the US. I'm writing this at 8.10 in the evening.
If possible please quote the problem composer and the year it was first
published. The BCM may not give these details but if they do then I can try
double-checking if necessary.
Regards,
Tyson
On 19 October 2018 at 20:07 Jim <jhomme1028@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jhomme1028@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi,
I want to see if I can solve any of the problems in Braille Chess
Magazine. If I get stuck understanding the notation, does anyone here
want to answer questions about it?
Thanks.
Jim
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