I understand the reason for not being able to use a smart phone during play
for any reason, because one of those reasons might be for analysis or
actually having the phone playing your game. My thought of looking for a
chess clock app is not for use during tournaments, but for home use to get
used to using a clock during play.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-----Original Message-----
From: JT
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:54 PM
To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Chess Clock
Under current regs, you can not under any circumstances use an IPhone for
your chess clock in a tournament. All smart phones must be turned off, not
mute, not vibrate, Off, and may not be on your person. They can be in a bag
at your table, or outside the tournament hall altogether. If you are
observed using a smart phone, during your game, even if you are outside the
tournament hall, you can be removed from the tournament.
That's what the rules say. I've known TD's to be a bit lax WRT enforcement
when someone forgets to turn off their phone. But they get real cranky if
the phone comes out of the bag inside the playing area.
You're right about the basic clock structure. Two clock faces, with some
kind of mechanism to start and stop the clocks alternately. One starts, the
other stops, etc.
HTH,
Jim T
-----Original Message-----
From: usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:21 PM
To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Chess Clock
You said that your opponent did not have a clock, but you did. Isn't only
one chess clock used? You each start your opponent's time when it is their
turn? I was always under the impression that there is a chess clock,
containing two independent clocks in one housing, placed so that both
players can stop their time and start their opponent's time through the use
of a button.
If you have a clock, I would like to know more about it. Where it was
obtained and for how much money, the name of it, and how it deals with
incremental adding of time during tournaments. Is it a digital or a
mechanical clock, and how does a blind player use it when setting the time
for both players and how does a blind player check the amount of time that
remains.
I will shortly be looking at some iPhone apps for use as a chess clock.
Does anyone use one, and, if so, which one? Thanks in advance.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-----Original Message-----
From: David Rosenkoetter
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:59 PM
To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Chess Clock
As for flags falling, the best way to know is to keep track of the time like
a hawk and to be very explicit as your time is coming down to the last tick.
In three of my games at the Mid-America Open, each of my competitors'
clocks and mine went under two minutes. That makes for extremely long rounds
where it's very easy to lose focus, especially on time. One of my opponents
simply announced both of our times after each move we made coming down to
the finish. And afterward, we were both to tired to care about who won or
lost until we gasped for air an did a joint postmortem.
In another of the games, my opponent didn't have a clock, but I did.
So, we used it and, with the guidance of an assistant TD, calculated the
increment additions as necessary. He'd directed a couple of the US Blind
Players' Championships here in the States back in the 1980s. He actually
gave me some suggestions for improving the accommodations for increment
allowance per move which I'd be happy to share with Janel, who's on the list
and a member of the disabilities committee for the USCF.
Oh, and if you are playing a kid or an adult who's a first-time player in a
tournament open to blind and sighted players, you may need to repeat various
rules for clock and other accommodations quite frequently. Folks get excited
in the heat of competition and simply forget what needs to happen. It's
okay. They're going to be nervous or uncertain on a lot of things, too.
Playing in sighted tournaments is just as enjoyable for me as playing in
those involving only blind or VI players.
All the best in chess,
David
Email: davidrosenkoetter260@xxxxxxxxx
Cellphone: (260) 206-9277
Skype ID (same as my email address): davidrosenkoetter260@xxxxxxxxx
On 4/10/19, Lucas Radaelli <lucasradaelli@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Is there a way to buy the kaissa chess clock here in the us?
it is a digital talking chess clok that works well.
Em 4/10/2019 12:28 PM, Charles Rivard escreveu:
I have been searching for ways to modify chess clocks for blind
users. The flags on those I have looked at do not make any noise
when they fall. I thought of placing dymo tape with appropriate dots
for checking the time. I have asked jewelers if they can modify
chess clocks and have gotten nowhere. In most cases, the faces are
covered, and cannot be opened without great difficulty. If anyone
knows of any mechanical chess clocks that can be used, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-----Original Message----- From: JT
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 11:26 AM
To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Chess Clock
Hi All,
Just a couple add-ons to what David has already provided. Tournament
etiquette is that black gets to decide where to place the clock. And
of course general courtesy dictates that whoever is placing the clock
places it so that both players can read it comfortably. In all the
tournaments that I have played, this has never been an issue.
The second thing I'll mention is that whenever it occurs that the
clock being used is not an "accessible clock," which is often, these
days, given the evolution of using delay or increment factors in
tournaments, I always ask my opponent for permission to ask him or
her to read the clock, stipulating that I will only do so on my time.
Again, I have never had an issue.
For anyone who is not familiar with the ideas of delay and increment,
it means simply this: the times for each player is altered on every
move by the delay or increment factor listed in the tournament
invitation information and repeated by the tournament
director--usually before every round. The delay or increment factor
refers to the number of seconds given to each player on each move.
Game/45 D5 means, the game must be completed within 45 minutes, for
each player of course, and that, for each move, the clock will delay
for 5 seconds before continuing to count down. Increment works
essentially the same way, except that the clock adds in seconds
whatever the increment factor is before continuing to count down. To
my knowledge, there are only a couple of accessible clopcks
manufactured in the world which have the capability of setting a
delay or an increment factor, none of them are braille and all of
them require the user to wear an earbud to use them. If anyone knows
of a braille clock that does delay and increment, I'd dearly love to
know about it. The audible clocks run well over a hundred dollars and
have to be ordered from overseas. The analog clock, I believe, runs
about
$35 or so??
Cheers,
Jim T
-----Original Message-----
From: usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:usbca_chess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
Rosenkoetter
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 9:42 PM
To: usbca_chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Chess Clock
Hi, Jim.
Your best bet is the good ol' stand-by made by Garde. I've got it and
have used it several times in tournaments with sighted players. It is
often the case that, in larger tournaments, you'll run into
particularly first time competitors who forget their clocks. Or, out
of interest, some folks will want to see how we work the clock in a
match. So, I make sure the clock is visible to my competitor and
accessible to me.
In fact, I will often offer to use my clock. We'll see how things go
with it this weekend. We've got the Queen Quickly tournament over at
the Purdue Chess Club in West Lafayette. It'l be game in 30, so
keeping time on my clock will be easy. I've never had an opponent
give pushback about it.
David
On 4/9/19, Jim <jhomme1028@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi All,
What are the rules in tournaments regarding chess clocks for blind
players in sighted tournaments, and are there clocks blind people
can use that work for the roules? If so, how costly are they and
where can I get one?
Thanks.
Jim
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