Didn’t Carlsen have a 122-move marathon with Anand in the last WCC?
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Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Caruana-Carlsen s1/2-1/2 a few details
All,
Any professional player would be competent at exploiting small advantages. Part
of what makes a player stronger is how they deal with someone who is intent on
a slow grind. See the Tal-Botvinnik match in 1960.
Incidentally the return match in 1961 featured a draw in 121 moves, game 20 if
anyone wants to play through it.
Tyson
On 10 November 2018 at 16:00 Chris Ross <c.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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David et al,
One slight correction.
Carlsen does indeed like the slower type of game. Indeed, he's the true master
of slowly grinding out a small, even tiny, positional advantage. He's the
current best player who can ilk out the slender of advantages. So, this type of
game will suit him well.
Cheers,
Chris
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Subject: [usbca_chess] Re: Caruana-Carlsen s1/2-1/2 a few details
Chris, Tyson et al, I agree with your assessment overall. I think it was Hess
that said that if Carlsen recognized that he draw not playing his best chess,
that can give him a good indication he's the better player.
Also, that Caruana wouldn't have prepped well for Carlsen's Sicilian was
baffling to me. Where I think the tides starting turning in his favor had
nothing really to do with his own play. Rather, along with
39...Be5 and 40.Bxc3 with no real follow-up on the queenside, Carlsen let
himself get in the poke-and-prod grudge match which is not at all his game.
Well, in any case, Carlsen plays white today and let's hope the "feel each
other out" stage of the WCC is over.
I do see why Kramnik predicts a probable win for Caruana. In his match against
Kasparov (2000), he did enough to win in points and gained a psychological
tempo that frustrated Kasparov to no end. But, none of their games went 115
moves.
Glad to know Judit Polgar's commentating on the event's main page.
I'll probably give her a listen for part of today.
On 11/10/18, mordue andrew <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hello folks.
115 moves ... oh dear. Generally, the longer the game the less
interesting it is although there may be occasional points worth
looking at. I'll just emphasise that, generally.
The last 60 moves of this is just footling around which is a fair
thing to do, particularly in game 1 of a World Championship match.
However, there is little content during this. Carlsen definitely had
the better of the early middle-game and there is speculation over
missed wins. One of these is the odd 39...b5 which is an interesting
plan but not a win in the sense that strong players understand it.
A WC match can be very tense and Caruana needs to do better if he is
to mount a serious challenge.
Regards,
Tyson
On 10 November 2018 at 03:08 Louis Prem <louisprem63@xxxxxxxxx
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Wow! 115 moves! Great!
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From: David Rosenkoetter <davidrosenkoetter260@xxxxxxxxx
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Subject: [usbca_chess] Caruana-Carlsen s1/2-1/2 a few details
Hi, everyone.
Day one of the world championship between Caruana and Carlsen is
finished and it ended in a draw. The game took 115 moves, so a PLY
count of 230. After being well-outplayed coming out of the opening
where he played the Rossolimo attack against the Sicilian, Caruana
resorted to playing tactics, which usually would favor Carlsen.
Yet,
the late middlegame and endgame belonged to him. (Let's just say
Carlsen had a couple let-up points; you examine and decide for
yourself.) You can check out the game score at www.chessgames.com
<http://www.chessgames.com> .
They and a whole host of other platforms are broadcasting games live.
For my part, I will continue following it via www.chess.com/TV
<http://www.chess.com/TV> where
IM Daniel Wrench and GM Robert Hess are providing play by play
coverage along with their commentary mixed with pop culture levity.
Here's hoping I can continue providing some brief summaries each day
for the list.
Of course, if our British CM, Chris Ross would like to chime in along
with FM Mordue and Paul Benson with further annotation, that would be
great. I think we all can benefit from their commentary if they have
time to give it in detail each day.
All the best in chess,
David
