Shucks, Richard, what a disappointment! Still Slow, eh? IMO, should a bad sector have been found/fixed/marked-as-unusable, may or may not indicate a potential catastrophic failure of your HDD. The concensus is that if you don't have a backup you're tempting fate. If one sector went bad, the rest are soon to follow, from what I've read. As I previously mentioned, the disk in your PC is one prone to a lot of unusually frequent failures. Heck, they were coming out DOA. Your PC is not still under warranty, I bet. If it is, try to get that HDD replaced. Did I already offer you this link to try, re your slow PC?: http://www.scotsnewsletter.com/47.htm#linuxtips and look for the heading "Application Slow-Downs in Windows XP". Keep in mind that in Windows, just as there are a myriad ways of achieving the same task, there are also just as many opinions on every subject. Here is a composite of all the suggestions to trouble shoot your current situation that I've been able to gather, some I may have already suggested: SLOW XP BEYOND THE VIRUS-SYWARE STUFF: Try creating a new windows xp profile... I had a similar issue and it was fixed by creating a new profile.(someone offered) ---------------------- Check for updated drivers for your PC. HOW TO: Verify Unsigned Device Drivers in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/... ------------- download and run Startup Control Panel (http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml). This is equivalent to Windows 98 Msconfig. Uncheck programs that don't need to startup when Windows starts ------------- C: WINDOWS on your hard drive and look for PREFETCH folder GO EDIT / SELECT ALL....then hit delete on your keyboard...all these files will go to recycle bin.....empty it..........Prefetch folder just contains information on programs you use often and sometimes gets corrupted, no harm in deleting these files they get replaced over the next week or so.....give it a try. ---------------------------- http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-013.asp If you expand the Technical details section, you'll see: "Technical description: Microsoft re-issued this bulletin on May 28, 2003 to advise on the availability of an updated Windows XP Service Pack 1 patch. This revised patch corrects the performance issues that some customers experienced with the original Windows XP Service Pack 1 patch. Microsoft originally issued this bulletin on April 16, 2003. Subsequent to that date, Microsoft received reports of performance problems with the patch from some Windows XP Service Pack 1 customers... " ---------------- Svchost and not Svchosts (the second one has an 's' on the end!). The first one is OK. The second one is a Trojan. If you are running the second one, run a virus scan on your machines. It is OK and normal to have more than one process of Svchost.exe running. (http://www.ntfaq.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=20609) Kill one at a time and see if the speed come back. Also if these are networked to each other, try removing all network functions on the machine. Uninstall any programs that have been installed. Download, install, and run Startup Control Panel by Mike Lin (ALREADY MENTIONED ABOVE) (http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml). This is like Msconfig in Windows 98, only better. Here you can disable programs that load and reside in memory upon booting. Some you don't see in the Task List and/or in the Startup Folder. Have you installed any new programs or hardware or updated any drivers (other than SP1) about the same time you noticed it was slowing down? If you go to Device Manager, is there anything with a red 'x' or a yellow '!'? Check out these three links also: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win2000/r1028227650 http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win2000/r1043126455 http://www.ntfaq.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=14503 --------------------------- if I had to make a guess, I would look very closely at any USB device you have connected. http://support.microsoft.com/default.asp -------- remove the 811493:Security Update file from your system and see if the problem disappears. ------ Delete profile & setup new one Check all settings in that machine's TCP/IP Properties, Advanced, DNS tab; or remove the user, recreate the user and copy the old profile settings and data: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811151?scid=kb;en-us;177976 ------------------------------------------------ These above are all the suggestions one fellow was offered to try to resolve your exact same trouble, Richard. He finaly fixed it! You want to know how? Well, here it is, in his own words: "Well, I bought a new hard drive and it is working perfectly fine now. Thanks for everyone that helped me out with any suggestion, and that includes: mike51, milomorai, TKoch, linney, Freestone, micker377, coakerb, paparazi, iSeriesCodePoet, karlehenry, and especially bcastner, for posting the most on this thread and helping me out with the ethics of forum posting. I have always thanked the people that help me, but I should pinpoint names specifically for more deserving credit. Thanks to all again." Going back to basics, in your case: 1) PC was running fine. 2) Upon adding a particular application, the slow down emerged. 3) Removing said application did not result in the desired fix 4) You don't believe in genies and evil spirits or voodoo doctors.[Oops, wrong forum; wrong list ;)] My conclusion: If I had my druthers, I would change HDD. But, I'll keep on looking, Richard. There may yet be some other stone left unturned, eh? It is possible that the same fix might have been achieved by this guy by simply reinstalling, fresh, as he had to do when installing into a new HDD. That is one option you have yet to try before investing in the new HDD. BW, armando ---------------------------------- On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:35:25 -0700, "Richard Matthew" wrote: > > Well Armando and friends, > > I ran the Drive Fitness Test Utility, and it found a > bad sector. It repaired > it. And... All you have to do is look at the subject > line. No change. > > Do I punt? > > Best > > Richard ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com VIEW ARCHIVES @ //www.freelists.org UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk Contact List Owner - dbcfour@xxxxxxx