Armando,I didn't mean to convey that the listing I posted is things I have on my computer; it was just a list of programs that install tool bars. It could be used by anyone was wondering if a particular programs bundled a tool bar with it.
Fortunately I did a quick view of the items on the list and don't have any of them! *http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm* <http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htmof%20the%20list%20yo>
I had used AVG for a number of years, but I switched to Avira a while ago (I think you recommended it at that time) After you had mentioned Microsoft Security Essential in a posting a few weeks ago I did installed it. I kept Avira and switch between the two deactivation the other while using one of them at a time to evaluate. Then I saw a review of all the free anti virus programs for 2012 and AVG was on the top again. Fondly remembering AVG, I then kept Microsoft Security Essentials deactivated, deleted Avira, and started using AVG.
I had since noticed that in the Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 326 • 2012-02-16, Is your free AV tool a ‘resource pig?’
Fred Langa personally recommends MSE.*( http://tinyurl.com/6wd6wj2 )* He said in the posting: /*"For me — for now — nothing in these numbers would alter my recommendation — and personal use — of Microsoft Security Essentials."
*/I still have MSE installed, but it is inactive and only use if needed.Both of them are much easier to use than Avira. Since I can only keep AVG inactive until the next boot, I don't want to switch MSE unlessyou think there is a big difference in the two.
Your advise would be appreciated. Brian ================== On 6/1/2012 1:55 AM, armando barreiro wrote:
Re list of installed stuff, a quick browse over the list you submitted leads me to think that there are things installed that you don't need.In the first place, I use but Microsoft Security Essentials only, though I did install McAfee's links security advisor toolbar. No need for Zone Alarm, IMO, at all.To check your list of stuff see <http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm>Best wishes, Armando --- On *Thu, 5/31/12, brian /<brian99@xxxxxxxxxxx>/* wrote: From: brian <brian99@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: Portable Program Question To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 11:01 PM Howard, Chuck, & Armando, Thanks for all the great tips. /* "just deleting all the files. If you use a registry cleaner"*/ Howard, I had stopped using a registry cleaner since I thought W7 runs it periodically. But that is sure good to know I can delete and then scan the registry ! /*"unwise.exe "*/ I had wondered for a long time what Unwise.exe was-- it sounded nefarious! But that sure got rid of Sotonic-Eng7! I had used uninstall but never unwise.exe /*"If it's listed in your installed programs then it's not portable"*/ Armando, I had been following that line of thinking but Softonic wasn't listed in Add/Remove. I think something I may had done back a while ago could have eliminated some installed programs from the Add/Remove list because they were also not listed in other uninstaller apps I check. */"all sorts of rogue junk that gets added on when you install lots of programs"/* Chuck, I spent much of the AM checking for tool bars; I have a couple that were unwanted and deleted them. I must have been paying attention when installing programs and unchecked nearly tool bar options that had that option before installing the program. I was surprised that I didn't have a problem. It is nice to learn a few more tricks. And although I may not know if a program is portable for sure, I know how to delete it and compensate for left overs with a registry scan. _*NOTE*_: For anyone checking on their tool bars they have I have included a listing below. Thanks for the help again. Brian ================= The list is reproduced here from Calenderof updates forum, with a few edits. 4 shared Desktop - Toolbar. Ad-Aware - Google Chrome Adobe Flash Player - Google Toolbar Adobe Reader - eBay Desktop Advanced SystemCare formerly known as Iobit advanced one care - Yahoo Toolbar (selecting no will still do changes on the system) Aero Fox addon for Firefox - Ask toolbar. Any Video Converter – Google Chrome. AnVir TaskManager - Dealio Toolbar, RegistryCleanerPro and some other third party applications. AOL Instant Messenger - AOL Toolbar Apple’s Software Updater - Safari Browser, QuickTime, iTunes Applian FLV Player - Yahoo Toolbar Auslogics Disk Defrag - Ask Toolbar. Auslogics Duplicate File Finder - Ask Toolbar. Auslogics Registry Defrag - Ask Toolbar Auslogics System Information - Ask Toolbar Avast - Google Chrome but not pre-selected. AVG LinkScanner, AVG Free, AVG 9 - Yahoo Toolbar BitComet - Google Toolbar BitTorrent 6.1.2/6.3 - Ask Toolbar BurnAware Free - Ask Toolbar. CCleaner (standard installer) - Yahoo Toolbar CDBurnerXP - Ask toolbar, SpywareTerminator and Uniblue Registry Booster. ChrisTV Lite - ChrisTV Toolbar/Relevant Knowledge adware. ClamWin - Ask Toolbar Corel Paint Shop Pro X - Yahoo! Toolbar but not pre-checked. CPU-Z - Ask Toolbar CSmenu - Ask Toolbar. Cyberlink BD Advisor - Google Toolbar. Cyberlink PowerDVD 8 - Google Toolbar and BETA of Moovielive Daemon Tools - Search tool and sponsor ad module Defraggler - Yahoo Toolbar DexTop - RegistryBooster. Digsby instant messenger – Yahoo Toolbar, MyFreeze NetAssistant for Firefox, Smart Shopper, WeatherBug, Regsitry Power Cleaner, Relevant Knowledge Toolbar, changes browser homepgae to My Freeze. Additionally, if uses your bandwidth to crawl the web for stock market research. DivX - Yahoo Toolbar/Norton Security Scan Driver Sweeper - Open Candy. Duplicate Cleaner - Bing Toolbar and Search Helper Extension in Firefox. DVDx - Ask Toolbar FLV Player - Yahoo! Toolbar. FormatFactory - ebay shorcut and/or Ask toolbar. Foxit Pdf Reader - Ask Toolbar and ebay shortcut in desktop Freecommander - ebay shortcuts. Free Download Manager - prechecked and bundles Software Informer Free YouTube to MP3 Converter - DVDSoft Toolbar, search engine. Game House Installers - Google Desktop Search and/or Google Toolbar for IE. GameVance Installer - Ask Toolbar and Weather Channel Desktop GetGo Download Manager - Ask Toolbar. Glary Utilities - Ask Toolbar GOM Player - Ask Toolbar. Google Earth - Pre checked Google Toolbar installation or Chrome browser. Google Talk - no addon but will change default search setting of IE Hotspot Shield - Hotspot Shield Community Toolbar (by default) from Conduit. ICQ - ICQ Toolbar IE7Pro - Offering ProgSense. Installed Grab Pro Toolbar (using Ask search). IM ToolPack - Crawler toolbar. ImgBurn - Ask Toolbar and Uniblue Desktop icons. IMMUNET - Ask Toolbar. Incredimail - MyStart Homepage and Search Page IOBit Security 360 - IObit Toolbar. IOBit Smart Defrag - Yahoo Toolbar/Search Settings. IObit Advanced SystemCare - Yahoo Toolbar. IrfanView - Google Toolbar for IE and Google Desktop Search Isobuster - Ask Toolbar IZArc - RegistryBooster. Logitech Setpoint - Logitech Yahoo! Toolbar ManyCam Virtual Webcam - Ask Toolbar and Norton Security Scan. Maxathon 2 - Facebook Sidebar Plugin McAfee Site Advisor update - Yahoo! default browser search MediaCoder - Registry Reviver. MessengerPlus! Live - Ask Toolbar. Miro - Ask Toolbar. MP3 WMA Converter - Yahoo Search and Delio Comparsion Shopping Toolbar MooO Connection Watcher - AutoComplete Pro MyPhoneExplorer - offering ebay shortcuts Nero Free, Nero Burning Rom or Nero 9 Essentials and Nero BurnLite 10 - Ask Toolbar Norton products - Ask Search in Norton toolbar. No option to remove and it was pushed by including in a Norton patch. Office Live add-in - includes Silverlight as add-on OpenCandy - offering third party software. Report says that even if you do not install the 3rd party software, there is modification in the registry, files and will add tracking cookies. There's also Conduit Toolbar in the page PalTalk - Ask Toolbar. There's a nag screen prompting to upgrade from free to paid edition. No way to turn off the nag. Panda Cloud AV - Yahoo Search Assistant and a pre-checked toolbar. PC Tools Spyware Doctor - Google Toolbar PC Tools Firewall Plus - Google Toolbar and Threatfire PC Tools ThreatFire - Google Toolbar. PC Wizard 2010 - Ask Toolbar. PDFCreator - Yahoo Toolbar. Also offers PDFforger Toolbar and Widgi Toolbar (mybrowser bar). PDF-XChangeViewer - Ask Toolbar. Perfect Utilities - Relevant Knowledge (RK) toolbar PhotoFiltre - Ask Toolbar. Picpick - Ask Toolbar. Quick Media Converter HD - Ask Toolbar, Ask Search, Ask Homepage (by default). Quicksys RegDefrag - Ask Toolbar. RapidTyping - Bing Toolbar. Recuva - Yahoo toolbar RealPlayer - Google Chrome pre-checked. Risingware Fast Start Genie - installs Fast Start Genie and Risingware i-Desktop. Shockwave Player - Norton Security Scan or Google Toolbar SIW (System Information for Windows) - Crawler Toolbar. The installer of SIW (free version) will offer SnagIt (report here)or PC Tools Registry Mechanic (report here) but not pre-checked. Skype - Google Toolbar and Browser Highlighter Spiderplayer - Bing Toolbar. Spyware Terminator - Web security guard, Crawler StarBurn - installs StarPort DVD-ROM Emulator and SaveTubeVideo tools Sun Java RE (online installer) - Google Toolbar / Live Search for Windows Toolbar. There's report too that Carbonite Backup is being offered (depends on your location) Sun Java - OpenOffice.org Thoosje Sidebar - Amazon or eBay toolbar. Trillian - Ask Toolbar, Weather Channel Desktop and RegistryBooster Unlocker 1.90 - eBay Desktop shortcuts and Bing Toolbar (with 30 seconds waiting for proceeding to install if you'll uncheck Bing Toolbar install). uTorrent - Ask Toolbar. Vdownloader Plus - Ask Toolbar and eBay shortcuts. Veoh media player - Yahoo toolbar, search engine change & search protection VSO Image Resizer - Ask Toolbar. WeatherBug - Ask Toolbar. Webroot SpySweeper - Ask Toolbar Wildfire CD Ripper - Download Energy Torrent toolbar Winamp - Winamp Toolbar Windows Live Installer - Windows Live Toolbar and Sign-in Assistant Windows SteadyState - Windows Live Toolbar Winzip - RegistryBooster and Google Toolbar xplorer2Lite - Conduit toolbar XP-Antispy - eBay Shortcuts. YaHoo! Instant Messenger - YaHoo! toolbar, with ‘YaHoo! Search Protection’ and homepage change to YaHoo! ZoneAlarm - Conduit toolbar. Search powered by Google. =================== On 5/31/2012 9:01 AM, Howard wrote:*From:* ChasM49@xxxxxxx </mc/compose?to=ChasM49@xxxxxxx> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:41 AM *To:* triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx </mc/compose?to=triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Subject:* [triadtechtalk] Re: Portable Program Question Brian ... I agree totally with Chuck in OK!!! If a computer comes to me for repair, I go through the add/remove programs and remove ALL toolbars. If there are any tool bars on the computer that are not in the add/remove, I simply delete them and run my registry cleaner to remove the stuff left in the registry. Many of them read your keystrokes and send the info back! They also eventually add a lot of bars across your browser and take up a lot of viewing area on your monitor. They cause more problems than some viruses. Try to stay away from installing as a lot of them piggyback on other installs and need to be unchecked to avoid installing them. Howard Brian keep in mind there are all sorts of rogue junk that gets added on when you install lots of programs.... most of them are near useless and when comes to toll bar helpers I dump them totally have no use nor want any jerk outfit taking my control for their advert trash bag junk. And if after deleting the toolbar trash a particular program wont work to me it simply means came form the garbage can since needs trash to make money for the company.Keeo\p it simple stupid still is my game plan and I will not allow or keep any of the rash drive by add-ons that get stuck in with lots of programs..... and near all the big outfits sucker you into it...... ask your self... how many times have you seen the Google junk added in when installing programs? to me way too many and I do use Google but not as a toolbar and the rest of the junk it wants to add so they can make money.To me seems you have been out searching the dumpster's and finding so called needed programs that have dumped stuff on you unknowingly. keep in mind there are no more free lunches...... its all advert trash generally.......... chuck in Ok No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2425/5036 - Release Date: 05/31/12No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2425/5038 - Release Date: 06/01/12