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Date: Sat, Mar 28, 2020 03:21 AM
Subject: [tor] Re: torservers.net future
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 23:08:11 +0100
> Hello all,
> let me first introduce myself, for those that don't know me yet (most
> of you), I am one of the board members of Artikel 5 e.V. a small
> German non profit founded in late 2015. I like to be called utzer,
> which is my Twitter nick too.
> Same as Zwiebelfreunde e.V. one of our clubs the main purposes is to
> have a legal entity to run Tor exits. Another, probably even more
> important reason, we founded our non profit, is to educate about Tor.
> We are much smaller than other groups in this field, but still would
> like to take part of the load.
> In the last years we, the second of threen board members, Gero and I,
> have been in contact with Moritz and Juris a few times. I'd say it was
> loose informal contact on the CCC congress in Leipzig and Hamburg.
> We always wanted to support torservers.net and Zwiebelfreunde e.V. in
> an effort to increase diversity of the Tor ecosystem and asked to
> take over some to the work/servers/bandwidth or similar. Sadly this
> never happened, which for sure isn't to blame on anyone but us for
> not keeping nagging.
> Now, almost a year later, we would like to steer towards a meeting of
> interested people and groups. We want to use this meeting to discuss,
> define and decide how to proceed with torservers.net as I hope it
> would be in Moritz interest.
> There will be some preparation needed and some more discussions will
> take place in the time before the meeting.
> As I discussed with qbi at 36c3 in Leipzig in December 2019, and with
> Brabo at FOSDEM 2020, with Juga at both events with numerous other
> people (Christ and others) in the last months we should all together
> find out what to do with torservers.net.
> As Moritz asked in May 2019, which we all read, questioning the future
> of torservers.net.
> I want to make sure, even so it could be understood so, that I do not
> follow my own ambitions, but I would like to support the cause of
> I followed the whole process for some years now. I mostly sat in the
> background and watched what would happen, I was new and didn't want to
> get into it too much. Now I wanna take part in the process and would
> like to offer my help in organizing a first meeting. A first meeting,
> somewhere in/between Kassel and Frankfurt a.M.. The idea was a
> city/town easy to reach by train from
> Th??ringen/Berlin/Hamburg/Cologne, so I am still open for any personal
> suggestions from anyone who would like to join the meeting.
> At FOSDEM we discussed, that we would like to prepare the meeting for
> late April or May 2020, I think we will have to find a date in the
> smaller group of those interested to make sure the most important
> participants can be at the meeting (not counting me as important
> there). Juga reminded me that there is also the Onionspace in Berlin
> which could house this meeting, but maybe there is some other place
> too (ideas??). I know a Youth Hostel (Jugendherberge) in Kassel that
> would offer meeting rooms and at the same time it would be easy to
> find a place to stay.
> To summarize this long email, I want to help to organize a meeting for
> torservers.net to figure out the future and how to proceed with it.
> The idea now is to get some input from all of you!
> So please write if you think the meeting is a good idea, give me a +1
> at least (!!) or make suggestions what to do instead or what to
> discuss beforehand.
> As a possibility I would also like to mention that there could be a
> Zwiebelfreunde Member meeting at the same time, as I understand they
> have to have a meeting because their statue requires it, there was a
> failed meeting already (quorum problem). qbi seemed to agree that
> there is a possibility to combine both events, so let's at least keep
> this in mind.
> This is the first step to prepare a meeting.
with the current health crisis ongoing, we will need to wait a bit
until this blows over. we're using this time to consider funding for
this meetup/retreat. there are some options we are looking at right now
that could enable us to have a multi-day retreat (long weekend/week,
in the mean time, maybe we can do a virtual meetup some time to
brainstorm a little bit about a meetup and topics?