[tor] Re: Rokabear, Icelandic Hosting for Tor

  • From: jordan <jordan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: torservers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:18:57 +0100

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I think

> Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I feel this is the best way
to gain WORLD-wide acceptance/recognition of tor before countries can
begin to legislate against hosting exit nodes.


> Geographical spreading

are both valid points.

Iceland for example seems expensive but it seems that its due to that
icelandic hosters don't have cheap/"mixed calculation" offers where low
traffic of most balances out the high traffic of others (us).

That might fit well into the "Torservers.net Hosting Strategy" proposed
by Moritz.
So when we might get bigger grants in the future it is an idea and
should be discussed to rent a server for example in Iceland, so one gets
a network wise and politically stable Tor exit and .. where no exit has
ever been before ;)

On the other side, as Moritz outlined, cheaper offers should be
used/tried where available. So one gets more bandwitdh for the buck but
for the price of a possibly "unstable" and not well geographically
distributed Exits.


Am 2/23/2011 5:46 PM, schrieb Julian Wissmann:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I agree with you. 
> One of the known shortcomings of Tor is, that through analysis of traffic 
> going into the network and traffic coming out connections could be tracked 
> based on timing. This is probably a rather theoretical approach, but it is 
> possible. Geographical spreading will help a lot to render this approach 
> rather useless, because it diminishes the likelyhood of entry point and exit 
> being in one network.
> Julian
> - -- 
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
> Will Smith <nood@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> schrieb:
> Hello again all, Sorry for the absent communication but I finally caught up 
> on all the email. I specifically was interested in running a node out of 
> Iceland because there didn't seem to be any there yet. They also seem to be 
> going through a political upheaval that might lead to a good hosting 
> environment. Personally I notice that tor nodes suffer from a disturbing lack 
> of geographic disparity. I'm also looking into places that fit my criterion 
> major submarine cable connection hubs, such as Argentina. Feel free to 
> correct me if I'm wrong but I feel this is the best way to gain WORLD-wide 
> acceptance/recognition of tor before countries can begin to legislate against 
> hosting exit nodes. These are just my thoughts of course. - -nood - -------- 
> Original Message -------- From: raidz <admin@xxxxxxxxx> Apparently from: 
> torservers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <torservers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tor] 
> Re: Rokabear, Icelandic Hosting for Tor Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:07:21 -0800 
> > I might
>  ve come
> in late on this thread but what is the reason you > guys are looking into 
> hosting in Iceland? Is it their connectivity as a > middle point between the 
> EU and US or their laws/policies? I have heard > that bandwidth there is not 
> cheap (yet). > > On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:56:42 +0100, Moritz Bartl wrote: > > 
> Hi, > > > > On 18.02.2011 07:13, Klaus Layer wrote: > >> spoken at length 
> with one of the admins at 1984 and I feel like we > >> could > >> throttle 
> the node ourselves and they could monitor externally and > >> just shut it > 
> >> down if we exceed a previously agreed upon limit. > > > > I would rather 
> go with thordc.is. It should be no problem to start > > with > > their 
> cheapest VPS for 25€ monthly and pay 12€ per Mbps. > > > > I don't know what 
> prices they offered at 1984.is, but their default > > VPSes include only 
> 150GB traffic. 
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