Hi Ken et al, Apantesis is a mess and really needs an eager young Ph.D. student (or a highly motivated amateur) to figure out what is going on. In addition to phalerata, nais and vittata, there is also the relatively poorly unknown carlotta. I get a lot of carlotta here on Long Island, but apparently vittata does not get this far north. I would love to hear how people in your neck of the woods separate these four species. One caveat is that here on LI the females of nais and phalerata end up looking a lot like vittata, so it may turn out that there are separate field marks for makes and females. As for your moth, it is a male and it has a reddish HW. Do male nais show a reddish HW in your area? I think here it is only females that have a reddish HW (although I am not 100% confident in that assertion). Hugh On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:28 AM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Is this an 8170 Apantesis vittata – Banded Tiger Moth or an oddly marked > 8171 Apantesis nais – Nais Tiger Moth? > > > http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p193/kjchilds/Moths%202011/Moths%202011%20temporary/IMG_3019.jpg > > Ken Childs > Henderson, TN > Chester County > > http://www.finishflagfarms.com > > > -- Hugh McGuinness The Ross School 18 Goodfriend Drive East Hampton, NY 11937