[tn-moths] Re: Grammia
- From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 06:41:02 -0700 (PDT)
Whatever it is they like, I must have. Another one was on the sheet last night.
Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County
http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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>From: Hugh McGuinness <hdmcguinness@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:08 AM
>Subject: [tn-moths] Re: Grammia
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>It's phyllira again: note the two large spots near the tornus of the HW and
>also the black border on the OM near the apex of the HW. I also think the HW
>color is too deeply rose for parthenice (could be wrong on that). I also
>wonder whether the yellow-orange prothoracic scaling might indicate pyllira.
>Finally Forbes points out that the pm band is straight in this species and
>bent (angled) in virgo and parthenice Way cool.
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>Also I'll bet parthenice is a late summer moth for you. Forbes says there is
>one Jun record from MN, otherwise the species occurs in August.
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>Hugh
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>On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:52 AM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>This one is from last night and I'm guessing this must be a G. parthenice.
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>>http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p193/kjchilds/Moths%202011/Moths%202011%20temporary/IMG_3479.jpg
>>http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p193/kjchilds/Moths%202011/Moths%202011%20temporary/IMG_3477.jpg
>>http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p193/kjchilds/Moths%202011/Moths%202011%20temporary/IMG_3478.jpg
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>>Ken Childs
>>Henderson, TN
>>Chester County
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>>http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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>>>From: Hugh McGuinness <hdmcguinness@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 1:07 PM
>>>Subject: [tn-moths] Re: Grammia
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>>>
>>>Greeting Tn--moth-ers,
>>>
>>>After having been kicked off Tn-moths for the 10th time, you may note that I
>>>have signed up under a different e-mail account. Let's see if this one
>>>works. The other e-mail still works for personal correspondence and is in
>>>fact preferred.
>>>
>>>As for Ken's Arctiine, I believe that it is indeed Grammia, but neither
>>>virgo nor parthenice. (There are simply too many radiating cream colored
>>>lines to fit P nais in my experience.) The black trailing edge to the HW and
>>>the black spot that is indented into it, as well as the triangular patch
>>>that does not quite connect at the costa near the apex suggest phyllira, a
>>>moth I have never seen.
>>>
>>>As for separating virgo from parthenice, I believe the only safe way to do
>>>so is using the HW, which is spotted in the median area in virgo and
>>>unspotted in parthenice. I also believe that virgo flies in early summer and
>>>that parthenice flies in late summer (late Aug thru mid September here on
>>>Long Island, NY). My guess is that it is still too early for virgo in TN.
>>>
>>>Hugh McGuinness
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