The punctuation marks on the ventral sides of the hindwings of the Polygonia species are apparently incorrect for the actual species on which they appear on some percentage of individuals, but the percentage of individuals so marked is currently unknown (to me at least). Michael Bierly recently provided an example of a Question Mark with a punctuation mark that looks much like the punctuation mark found on Eastern Comma. During a butterfly count in western Putnam County in 2008, I found an Eastern Comma with the perfect punctuaton mark for Question Mark on each of its hindwings below. You may view photos of this individual at my website (link below). The frequency of such punctuational inversion among Polygonia would be good to establish. Does anyone else have photos providing the kind of evidence that Michael provided recently or that I provided a couple of years ago? If this is a relatively frequent (i.e., occurring in more than 1% of individuals) aberration, then it might be worthwhile to require dorsal photos of these species to establish a county record rather than trusting the ventral photos. [In this regard, however, I would also note that the Eastern Comma with punctuation marks like a Question Mark that I photographed in 2008 also had a very "ghostly" image of the rectangular spot in the dorsal forewing apex that supposedly confirms that an individual is a Question Mark, so maybe there are individuals out there that display aberrant versions of this mark also--i.e., Eastern Commas with the extra rectangular mark and Question Marks without it.] If punctuational inversion is an insignificant problem (occurring on less than 1% of individuals), and if it occurs about equally in each species, then perhaps it won't affect county records much, since these species seem to be about equally common in most parts of the state where I am an active butterflier (so a mistake about one species might be balanced by a mistake about the other). However, if the inversion problem is more common in one species than the other, then it could be worth worrying about. In dealing with aberrant individuals, of which nature surely provides many examples, I find it most useful to present the aberration in a forthright manner rather than asking folks to guess what it might be. The goal is not to make folks look bad when they mess up on an i.d. because the features they have learned turn out not to be totally reliable; rather, the goal is to forewarn our friends about pitfalls they might encounter in the effort to correctly i.d. individuals butterflies and moths so that they avoid turning in photos of county record 'flies that are, in fact, incorrect. Hope to hear more about the polymorphic punctuation marks of the Polygonia. I have to think that there is a voluminous literature out there about this very matter. Steve Stedman Cookeville (Putnam County) Link to page with links to photos of Eastern Comma with punctuation marks like those of Question Mark: http://iweb.tntech.edu/sstedman/ButterflyCount--PutnamCountyWest.htm