I'm having trouble with a bird ID that I hope the list might be kind enough to help me with, despite the bird being just south of Tennessee, in Fannin County, GA. I'm on holiday in the Blue Ridge Mountains. Altitude is somewhere between 3-4000 feet. The mountains are deciduous, typical Appalachian. We've heard Wood Thrushes, Hooded Warblers (which I still haven't managed to see), Phoebes, and several warblers, and Indigo Buntings love to perch atop the pines. On our first day we saw and heard two Red-Shouldered Hawks. Our cabin is on the side of a ridge, so we can overlook the tops of trees. Just off my deck is the bare top of a tall maple tree. At first we thought the bird was an old leaf, it was so small. It stayed perched long enough for us to get a good look. Its size is smaller than a bunting. It perches like a passerine. It has a long thin beak, like a hummingbird. In fact I thought it might be some sort of hummingbird, but its colors don't match any in my Peterson's guide and it didn't fly like one: It dove off the top of the tree, and later I saw it fly swiftly by the bunting on the pine (which is how I can compare their size). It moved very fast with little obvious flapping. Its colors: the back is very black, perhaps with a green tinge but that might be the bright sunlight. Its belly seemed to be streaked with gray. Its neck had a distinctive collar of bright orange. The orange stripe is thin enough that it disappears when the bird tucks its "chin." I've been flipping through my Peterson's trying to find something that even resembles it, so I'd be grateful for any suggestions where to look. Its most noticeable features for me are the orange collar, its small size, and its very long beak, much longer than say a nuthatch or gnatcatcher. Robin Barrow Mineral Bluff, GA =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds you report were seen. The actual DATE OF OBSERVATION should appear in the first paragraph. _____________________________________________________________ To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. ______________________________________________________________ TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Assistant Moderator Andy Jones Cleveland, OH ------------------------------- Assistant Moderator Dave Worley Rosedale, VA __________________________________________________________ Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ARCHIVES TN-Bird Net Archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/tn-bird/ EXCELLENT MAP RESOURCES Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp Tenn.Counties Map at http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/states/tennessee3.gif Aerial photos to complement google maps http://local.live.com _____________________________________________________________