I've been checking the feeder on and off since 6:30 this morning. No sign of the bird again yet. I did some searching for photos on the Internet of the bird and compared it with photos of other possible similar species such as Purple Finch. The photos of the Purple Finch are not the bird that I saw. I have also viewed photos of Red Crossbills and White-winged Crossbills. The White-winged Crossbills from head-on views are similar to what I saw. They are rather plump like the bird I saw and the color is very much like what I saw. Also their bills are dark and rather rounded and definitely hooked on the upper mandible. I've also noticed that the illustrations in any field guides that I have show Pine Grosbeaks as being very stream-lined. All of the photos I've seen online of the bird show very plump roly-poly birds. Which IS in line with the bird that I saw yesterday. They are frankly mostly all front and very little rear. I also watched a Blue Jay hanging on a small suet feeder and could see how even a larger bird can hide alot of it's length behind a small suet feeder. So I'm rethinking that a Pine Grosbeak COULD conceivably sit on the narrow tray of that feeder with most of it's body (it's roly poly plump breast and belly) sticking off the side of the tray, with it's feet clutching the side of the tray and with it's short back end and tail tucked behind it on the feeder. I'll let y'all know if it (whatever it is) returns and get video of it if it does. Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, Rutherford Co, TN =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. You are also required to list the count in which the birds you report were seen. The actual date of observation should appear in the first paragraph. _____________________________________________________________ To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. ______________________________________________________________ TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____________________________________________________________ Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp _____________________________________________________________