Sorry if this seems way out of date, but I'm prety behind on email... It is generally accepted (in other words, I don't know by whom, but I hear the number a lot) that anything we stick on a wild animal should weigh less than 10% of that animal, and that we should try to keep it as small as possible. Given that many neotropical migrants - the birds that are banded in the largest numbers by far - weigh less than 10 grams, we would have to attach something that, including transmitter, power device, and antenna, weighs less than a gram. I don't think I've ever seen an antenna that weighs less than a gram, nevermind the rest! Certainly, if such a system could be designed, and be somewhere near affordable, I'd jump on the bandwagon. So James, keep me informed, and I'll send all my bands back to Laurel, MD. I've done radio telemetry with small turtles, and it was *quite* expensive to get transmitters that weighed little enough. In fact, we ended up borrowing transmitters from Greg Kearns, who uses them on, guess what.... birds! He has probably done more to add to human knowledge of Soras than anyone else. For several years (don't know if he still does) he would attach radio devices on 15 or so Soras on the Patuxent River, a tributary of Chesapeake Bay about 45 minutes south of Annapolis, then follow them to Florida. Interestingly, even with all this high-tech stuff, and the fact that Greg is the most energetic person on earth (for those of you who know me, I can't keep up with him!) he still has a hard time keeping up with them. He's even sent recievers to family, friends and researchers along the Atlantic coast and some likely inland areas. Turns out there is no perfect way to do research. And this is a bird that we NEED to know more about, since it is hunted in several states. Meaning that "authorities" need to put bag limits on it. Even though they don't know how many there are, where they go, or how they get there. What do they do, roll dice?!? Don't take this as a dig on hunting, or on the fish and wildlife folks - but this isn't as cut and dried as deer headcounts. Now to get on topic here... The hatch-year Broad-winged Hawk that was hanging outside my house for 4 days, acting very funny, is gone. I'm assuming that he succombed, but am hoping I'm wrong. Screech-owls are heard several nights a week. Haven't heard ANY warbler in over a week now. The times, they are a-changing. Charlie --- K Dean EDWARDS <kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > As with many things (such as electric cars), the problem is > in developing batteries that are small enough and strong > enough to power the electronics for any period of time. > The Palm computer you spoke of still requires a handful > of batteries. Miniaturizing electronics is not a big > problem -- you're just directing electrons around and they're > small. Generating significant amounts of energy with a small > mass...? Now you're limited by thermodynamics. > > On topic, there are two nests with Am. 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