[TN-Bird] Re: Sandhill season?
- From: Michael Sledjeski <mtnsylva@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Wallace Coffey <jwcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx>, tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:28:39 -0500
Don't the great white weekend hunters have enough live targets? Who
do we contact to express opposition to legalized crane-killing in TN?
Michael Sledjeski
Del Rio TN
On Mar 19, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Wallace Coffey wrote:
> TN-Birders:
>
> Ooops! I just again read Scott Somershoe's Jan. 29 post about the
> "Sandhill
> season ?"
>
> What was I thinking ? Back in late February at a waterbird council
> meeting
> in Louisiana, TWRA guys were pushing "hard" for a Sandhill Crane
> harvest
> and management plan.
>
> The Commissioners of TWRA voted today to go ahead with plans to work
> on some kind of Sandhill Crane season in Tennessee. Details are yet
> to be
> worked
> out by TWRA, they always say it will take "years" to work up a
> management
> plan. Maybe by that time birders in Tennessee can work up a good
> sweat
> and get panicked about all this.
>
> This is why I wrote in my post of Jan. 26 that "Bob Hodge of the
> Knoxville
> News-Sentinel is not a blind hog that suddenly discovered an
> acorn. When
> seeds are planted in the right places, new ideas seem to sprout
> right up. It doesn't matter how long wildlifers have been jockeying
> for the
> right time to pull the trigger." Hodge had insider information all
> along
> and he knew what TWRA was going to do. I bet the agency guys were
> leaking this to get a sense for the heat.
>
> Hodge even appears to be light years ahead of Sommershoe, TWRA's State
> Ornithologist, who told us on TN-Birds Net that:
> "I would/should hear about plans long before any rule or regulation
> was
> passed since they are currently "non-game" species in TN and I'm the
> non-game bird guy with TWRA. I have heard nothing about a movement
> to open a hunting season and doubt it will actually happen anytime
> soon,
> specifically for all the reasons David Aborn listed. Hunting
> Sandhill's is
> not an issue here with TWRA as far as I can tell."
>
> Man can you believe your eyes ? TWRA sounds like
> a see no evil, hear no evil, know no evil show at the circus. Or else
> it is called wildlife doublespeak.
>
> Maybe this is what you get for having an office in the coat closet
> at the
> far end of an agency hallway beyond the furnace room in the basement
> of wildlife management in Nashville.
>
> When Bob Hatcher was over at TWRA you didn't see him peeking out of a
> coat closet. But, give Hatcher credit, he was not the State
> Ornithologist.
> We all knew him well and we all respected what he told us
> and he respected us.
>
> David Aborn said in his post on the Hodge article that, "Crane
> hunting is an issue that is definitely important, and I encourage
> everyone
> to participate in the process however they can. As I said, however,
> there won't be any hunting for a while, so let's get too panicked."
>
> David, I am still trying to get too panicked but TWRA and their
> newspaper
> mouth piece in Knoxville make me so nervous I just knee jerk.
> Sorry about
> that. I want to be cool about killing those freakin' things but it
> is hard.
>
> You know what I mean ?
>
> Let's go crane watching.....
>
> Wallace Coffey
> Bristol, TN
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Somershoe" <Scott.Somershoe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "TN-Birds" <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:51 AM
> Subject: [TN-Bird] Sandhill season?
>
>
>> Just a brief response to the general comments about Sandhill Crane
>> hunting
>> =
>> in Tennessee. If this was to ever happen, I would/should hear
>> about plans
>> =
>> long before any rule or regulation was passed since they are
>> currently =
>> "non-game" species in TN and I'm the non-game bird guy with TWRA.
>> I have
>> =
>> heard nothing about a movement to open a hunting season and doubt
>> it will
>> =
>> actually happen anytime soon, specifically for all the reasons
>> David Aborn
>> =
>> listed. Hunting Sandhill's is not an issue here with TWRA as far
>> as I can
>> =
>> tell.
>>
>> In case you didn't know, a new Sandhill Crane license plate has
>> been =
>> passed and approved by the State of TN. I found the proclamation
>> online =
>> months ago after I got a call asking about it and I'd not heard
>> anything =
>> about it. Not sure who submitted the crane for a tag, who is
>> designing =
>> the tag, or who gets the $ raised by the sale of the tags, for
>> example the
>> =
>> TWRA Watchable Wildlife fund gets $ from the Bluebird tag and we
>> use that
>> =
>> $ to fund nongame research and conservation programs. I know
>> nothing =
>> about the tag, but that it has been approved. A 1000 also have to
>> be =
>> pre-ordered for it to actually happen as well.
>>
>> If you have questions about Sandhills, hunting, or the tag,
>> contact me =
>> directly at: scott.somershoe@xxxxxxxxxxx=20
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Scott
>>
>> State Ornithologist
>> Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency
>> P.O. Box 40747
>> Nashville, TN 37204
>> 615-781-6653 (o)
>> 615-781-6654 (fax)
>> =20
>> UPS address: 440 Hogan Rd
>> Nashville, TN 37220
>> =20
>> FedEx address: 5107 Edmondson Pike=20
>> Nashville, TN 37211
>>
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