[TN-Bird] Re: Sandhill Cranes
- From: "Alice Beth & Lew" <ablroyce@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jdc.birds@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:53:47 -0400
Excellent plan
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:51 AM, JDC <jdc.birds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Seems anyone can apply for one of the 400 permits to hunt Sandhills. Being
> in possession of a permit would not require one to use it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 23, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Rebecca <shelcove@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Thank you for this information. I guess we all need to stay informed and
> be ready. I'm sure we can count on this list to keep us up to date -
> everyone's on-going work is much appreciated.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aborn, David <David-Aborn@xxxxxxx>
> To: shatmak <shatmak@xxxxxxxxx>; shelcove <shelcove@xxxxxxx>
> Cc: routledges <routledges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; tn-bird <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2013 12:29 pm
> Subject: RE: [TN-Bird] Re: Sandhill Cranes
>
> Operation Migration and the International Crane Foundation keep track
> of Whooping Crane numbers at Hiwassee, so they will be able to tell if
> there is a change. If a whooper does get shot, the impact will mostly be on
> public relations, as the eastern birds are considered to be an experimental
> population under the Endangered Species Act, so the penalties will be
> light. Recall the person who shot one of the whoopers in Indiana a couple
> of years ago. He was fined $1 plus court costs. If hunting makes the
> whoopers stay on the refuge more, that could be good because they would be
> safe there. If hunting causes them to go elsewhere, it might increase the
> likelihood that one will get shot, even if they go outside the hunt zone. I
> have 10 years of data on the Sandhill Cranes, so I will be able to detect
> differences in their numbers, behavior, on-refuge vs. off-refuge use, etc.
>
> *From:* tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?>]
> *On Behalf Of *Shannon Hatmaker Moore
> *Sent:* Friday, August 23, 2013 11:38 AM
> *To:* shelcove@xxxxxxx
> *Cc:* routledges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [TN-Bird] Re: Sandhill Cranes
>
> The best way to prevent the vote from passing was public outcry, which
> happened. The most confusing part is that it seems like there is a good
> chance this could impact the whoopers. If any whooping crane is shot or if
> the population is impacted I think the entire hunt will be shut down (there
> are many legal groups that would be willing to fight that battle I'm sure).
>
> As for a re-vote, I do not think this was a vote for a trial period. So
> the answer would be no about an annual vote. Once it's done, it's done.
> Unless, like I said a case can be brought under the Endangered Species Act
> if the whooping cranes are hurt.
>
> Does anyone know if there are any research projects right now at the
> Refuge so a case could be made for population change of the whoopers pre-
> versus post-hunt over the next couple of years? Dr. Aborn?
>
> Shannon Hatmaker Moore
> Warner Park Nature Center
>
> On Aug 23, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Rebecca <shelcove@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Nothing to be done to reverse or over-ride the vote? What about next
> year - is the decision made annually? Where did we fail to put pressure or
> raise our voices?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cynthia Anne Routledge <routledges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tn Bird <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 22, 2013 5:19 pm
> Subject: [TN-Bird] Sandhill Cranes
> It's with a heavy heart I report that the Wildlife Committee of the
> Tennessee Fish and Wildlife Committee voted IN FAVOR of establishing a
> Sandhill Crane hunt. The first shots will ring out this Thanksgiving Day
> and last until January 1st. 400 Permits, 1200 birds, NO BUFFER zones
> around the Refuge.
>
> <")
> ( \
> / |` Cyndi Routledge
>
> "It does not require a majority to prevail but rather an irate,
> tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."
> ~Samuel Adams
>
>
>
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