I had exactly the same thoughts when observing the hawk I saw this Wednesday ( Jan 28)on Nine Mile Road in Sequatchie Valley. Here is what led to my conclusion, realizing that we easily could have seen 2 different birds (though not likely). First, the bird was perched low in the tree, not diagnostic of RL but at least suggestive. Second, on studying the bird via scope, I am confident that the tail was not red on top but black. (It perched both facing me and away). Third, the tail was clearly shorter than the wings. Fourth, the head looked quite fluffy and rounded, this was obvious and easy to see. I was not able to make any distinction of bill size or feathering of legs. I thought seriously about walking out into the field and flushing the bird and now I am sorry that I did not, but still feel RL is most likely, though I will never know 100% for sure :-( Terry Witt Murfreesboro Tn =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ========================================================