[TN-Bird] Red Tail Hawk

  • From: Ginger Williams <ginger2tn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> tn-bird Digest        Tue, 15 Nov 2011        Volume: 10  Issue: 316
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> In This Issue:
> [TN-Bird] NTOS trip to Pace Point and Britton Ford
> [TN-Bird] Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> [TN-Bird] FW: Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> [TN-Bird] more hawk excitement
> [TN-Bird] Northern Harrier
> [TN-Bird] Re: Northern Harrier
> [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> 
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> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:57:12 -0600
> Subject: [TN-Bird] NTOS trip to Pace Point and Britton Ford
> From: "fekel" fekel@
> evans.tsuniv.edu>
> 
> NTOS will take a field trip on Saturday, November 19 to the
> Kentucky Lake area, which encompasses several well known
> birding spots. We will be visiting various sites such as Lick
> Creek, Bennett's Creek Overlook, Pace Point, Britton Ford,
> Eagle Creek, and Paris Landing State Park. We will focus on
> ducks, loons, gulls, eagles, geese, and sparrows that use the
> area during the late fall and winter. We will meet 7:00 am
> Saturday morning at the Bellevue Park & Ride lot, next to
> I-40 exit 196 in Bellevue on the southwest side of Davidson
> County, and from there we will car pool to Big Sandy. Frank
> Fekel will lead the trip, which will last most of the day.
> Bring a lunch and warm clothing as we will be next to the water
> for much of the time.  We may also tramp through a wet field
> or two in search of sparrows, so wear appropriate footware.
> Spotting scopes will be very helpful. Any interested birder
> is invited to participate.
> 
> For those wishing to meet us nearer our destination, we will
> stop briefly at the Big Sandy gas and convenience store
> (Doherty's Quick Mart) on the corner of Route 69A, arriving at
> about 8:50 am before heading on to Lick Creek and then
> Bennett's Creek Overlook on Big Sandy Unit TN-NWR.
> 
> Frank Fekel
> NTOS Field Trip Chairperson
> Bellevue, TN
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:14:51 +0000 (UTC)
> From: jos
> handkarina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [TN-Bird] Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, 
> TN
> 
> Nashville, TN Goshawk
> 
> 
> I have been reading this list for several years now, but this is my first
> post.  I observed what I believe was an immature Goshawk catch a pigeon in
> flight yesterday at 1515 hours right next to the Titans football stadium. 
> The hawk took the pigeon to the ground within the construction site next to
> the pedestrian bridge.  It then flew onto the construction fence, where it
> rested for a few minutes.  It then made several short flights until it
> ended up next to an air vent at the bottom of the stadium where it began
> eating the pigeon alive.  The pigeon continued to flap around and try to
> get away until his head was finally severed.  I was able to take several
> pictures of the bird and will attach a couple for confirmation of the
> identity.  
> Josh
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:54:26 -0800 (PST)
> From: Terry Witt terry
> witt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk 
> Nashville, TN
> 
> Looks like a N Goshawk to me
> There is at least some chance it may stay in the area all winter as there
> will be an ample supply of pigeons for food
> Terry Witt
> Murfreesboro Tn  
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "jos
> handkarina@xxxxxxxxxxx" jos
> handkarina@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: tn-bird
> @freelists.orgSent: Tue, November 15, 2011 9:14:51 AM
> Subject: [TN-Bird] Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> 
> 
> Nashville, TN Goshawk
> 
> 
> I have been reading this list for several years now, but this is my first
> post. I observed what I believe was an immature Goshawk catch a pigeon in 
> flight yesterday at 1515 hours right next to the Titans football stadium. 
> The hawk took the pigeon to the ground within the construction site next to 
> the
> pedestrian bridge.  It then flew onto the construction fence, where it
> rested for a few minutes.  It then made several short flights until it ended 
> up
> next to an air vent at the bottom of the stadium where it began eating the 
> pigeon
> alive. The pigeon continued to flap around and try to get away until his head 
> was
> finally severed.  I was able to take several pictures of the bird and will
> attach a couple for confirmation of the identity.  
> 
> Josh
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:09:24 -0500 (EST)
> From: kde@an
> gst.engr.utk.eduSubject: [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> 
> 
> Hey, Josh.  This looks like an immature Cooper's Hawk.  
> 
> Note the outer two tail feathers which are noticeably shorter than the 
> rest of the tail when seen from below as in the photo of the bird on 
> the fence.  This is a key point for Cooper's and is what gives it the 
> rounded tail appearance.  You won't see this on Sharp-shinned or Goshawk
> (unless in molt).  This is a key point which can usually be seen on 
> perched birds but doesn't get enough attention in field guides (in my 
> opinion).
> 
> Many young Cooper's have a white supercilium (eyebrow)... something 
> that also isn't given enough attention in field guides.  So this alone 
> is not a clincher for Goshawk.
> 
> Also note the reddish coloration coming in on the legs... again
> something you won't see on a Goshawk.
> 
> Finally, notice how the chest spotting gets smaller as you go down
> the belly... another sign for Cooper's.
> 
> Dean Edwards
> Knoxville, TN
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, jos
> handkarina@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > 
> > Nashville, TN Goshawk
> > 
> > 
> > I have been reading this list for several years
> now, but this is my first post.  I observed what I believe was an immature
> Goshawk catch a pigeon in flight yesterday at 1515 hours right next to the
> Titans football stadium.  The hawk took the pigeon to the ground within the
> construction site next to the pedestrian bridge.  It then flew onto the
> construction fence, where it rested for a few minutes.  It then made
> several short flights until it ended up next to an air vent at the bottom
> of the stadium where it began eating the pigeon alive.  The pigeon
> continued to flap around and try to get away until his head was finally
> severed.  I was able to take several pictures of the bird and will attach a
> couple for confirmation of the identity.  > 
> > Josh
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Chris Sloan csloan19
> 73@xxxxxxxxx>Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:12:08 -0600
> Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> 
> I was just typing the same thing that Dean wrote.  He makes all of the
> samepoints, so I won't bother reiterating except to say that, in my
> opinion,this is a fairly typical young Cooper's Hawk.  It's not an easy
> identification, though, and this bird certainly seems to be a pretty
> bigfemale.  This may be one of the ones I regularly see outside my office,
> since my window looks across the river to LP Field.
> Chris Sloan
> Nashville, TN
> http://www.chrissloanphotography.com
> 
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Terry Witt terry
> witt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Looks like a N Goshawk to me
> > There is at least some chance it may stay in the
> area all winter as there> will be an ample supply of pigeons for
> food>
> > Terry Witt
> > Murfreesboro Tn
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* "jos
> handkarina@xxxxxxxxxxx" jos
> handkarina@xxxxxxxxxxx>> *To:* tn-bird
> @freelists.org> *Sent:* Tue, November 15, 2011 9:14:51
> AM> *Subject:* [TN-Bird] Possible Immature Goshawk
> Nashville, TN>
> >
> > Nashville, TN Goshawk
> >
> >
> > I have been reading this list for several years
> now, but this is my first> post.  I observed what I believe was an immature
> Goshawk catch a pigeon in> flight yesterday at 1515 hours right next to the
> Titans football stadium.>  The hawk took the pigeon to the ground within the
> construction site next> to the pedestrian bridge.  It then flew onto the
> construction fence, where> it rested for a few minutes.  It then made several
> short flights until it> ended up next to an air vent at the bottom of the
> stadium where it began> eating the pigeon alive.  The pigeon continued to
> flap around and try to> get away until his head was finally severed.  I was
> able to take several> pictures of the bird and will attach a couple for
> confirmation of the> identity.
> >
> > Josh
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Richard Smith res_j
> ackson@xxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: [TN-Bird] FW: Possible Immature Goshawk 
> Nashville, TN
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:25:56 -0600
> 
> I am passing this on from a bird of prey expert I know in Michigan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: BirdsofP
> rey1@xxxxxxxxxxx: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:15:25 -0500
> Subject: Re: FW: [TN-Bird] Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> To: res_j
> ackson@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> Yes, it is most definitely a female juvenile cooper's hawk.  A goshawk will
> have a wedge shaped tail where the outer tail feathers will be very
> noticeable shorter. The cooper's has a rounded off tail where the outer
> tail feathers are a tad shorter. Here is a site with a good picture of a
> goshawk where you can see what I am saying about the tail. 
> http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/search2.cgi?species=No
> rthern%20Goshawk
> Also to the size ratio to the pigeon will also say cooper's. 
> 
> Aimee 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/15/2011 11:03:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, res_j
> ackson@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> 
> Can you ID this hawk, Aimee?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:14:51 +0000
> From: jos
> handkarina@xxxxxxxxxxxxx: tn-bird
> @freelists.orgSubject: [TN-Bird] Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nashville, TN Goshawk
> 
> 
> I have been reading this list for several years now, but this is my first
> post.  I observed what I believe was an immature Goshawk catch a pigeon in
> flight yesterday at 1515 hours right next to the Titans football stadium. 
> The hawk took the pigeon to the ground within the construction site next to
> the pedestrian bridge.  It then flew onto the construction fence, where it
> rested for a few minutes.  It then made several short flights until it
> ended up next to an air vent at the bottom of the stadium where it began
> eating the pigeon alive.  The pigeon continued to flap around and try to
> get away until his head was finally severed.  I was able to take several
> pictures of the bird and will attach a couple for confirmation of the
> identity.  
> Josh=                                           
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Dthomp2669
> @aol.comDate: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:00:18 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> 
> Josh,
> 
> Your bird is a "ringer" for the immature Cooper's hawks that are lead to my
> deck-full-of-rock pigeons for "hunting" each year.  The Cooper's have  
> nested about a half-mile from my house in West Nashville (Charlotte Park). 
> Davidson County, every year for MANY years.  
> 
> Dee Thompson
> Nashville
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: "Reese, Carol" jreese5@xxxxx
> du>Subject: [TN-Bird] more hawk excitement
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:18:16 +0000
> 
> I was pulled up at the window of the Taco Bell in Jackson TN, just south of
> I-40 when a hawk flashed past, coming from behind me, and carrying a
> struggling pigeon. It was low, and headed straight toward traffic on the
> frontage road, but at the last second dropped the pigeon and veered up and
> away. I jerked my car over and ran to get the flopping pigeon out of the
> road, fearful that the hawk would return for it and be struck by a car. I
> set it in large landscaped parking lot island between the Taco Bell and the
> motel next door, and watched for a few minutes but saw no further sign of
> the hawk. Maybe it wasn't hungry and just enjoyed sharpening its skills
> with a good pigeon snatch. Never got a good ID on it.Cr
> 
> "There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot."
> - Aldo Leopoldhttp://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/43828.Aldo_Leopold>
> Carol Reese
> Ornamental Horticulture Specialist -Western District
> University of Tennessee Extension Service
> 605 Airways Blvd.
> Jackson TN 38301
> 731 425 4767 email  jreese5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@utk.e
> du>
> From: tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris SloanSent: Tuesday, November 
> 15, 2011 10:12 AM
> To: terry
> witt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: jos
> handkarina@xxxxxxxxxxx; tn-bird; s
> upakanya_smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk 
> Nashville, TN
> 
> I was just typing the same thing that Dean wrote.  He makes all of the same
> points, so I won't bother reiterating except to say that, in my opinion,
> this is a fairly typical young Cooper's Hawk.  It's not an easy
> identification, though, and this bird certainly seems to be a pretty big
> female.  This may be one of the ones I regularly see outside my office,
> since my window looks across the river to LP Field.
> Chris Sloan
> Nashville, TN
> http://www.chrissloanphotography.com
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Terry Witt terry
> witt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:Looks like a N Goshawk to me
> There is at least some chance it may stay in the area all winter as there
> will be an ample supply of pigeons for food
> Terry Witt
> Murfreesboro Tn
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "joshandkarina@xxxxxxxxxxx,'','','')">'jos
> handkarina@xxxxxxxxxxx>'
> >To: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> @freelists.org>Sent: Tue, November 15, 2011 9:14:51 AM
> Subject: [TN-Bird] Possible Immature Goshawk Nashville, TN
> 
> 
> Nashville, TN Goshawk
> 
> 
> I have been reading this list for several years now, but this is my first
> post.  I observed what I believe was an immature Goshawk catch a pigeon in
> flight yesterday at 1515 hours right next to the Titans football stadium. 
> The hawk took the pigeon to the ground within the construction site next to
> the pedestrian bridge.  It then flew onto the construction fence, where it
> rested for a few minutes.  It then made several short flights until it
> ended up next to an air vent at the bottom of the stadium where it began
> eating the pigeon alive.  The pigeon continued to flap around and try to
> get away until his head was finally severed.  I was able to take several
> pictures of the bird and will attach a couple for confirmation of the
> identity.
> Josh
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: "Jean Obrist" in
> nisfreehorses@xxxxxxxxxx>Subject: [TN-Bird] Northern Harrier
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:45:14 -0500
> 
> On Nov 12th, I saw a stunning Norther Harrier hunting low and slow over hay
> fields on Stepp Rd near Goodwater Rd.   First one I've seen near my place. 
> I couldn't miss the striking white rump.Jean Obrist
> Bruners Grove
> Cocke Co, TN
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:07:30 -0600
> From: Marty martyd
> ehart6@xxxxxxxxx>Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Northern Harrier
> 
> On 11/15/2011 2:45 PM, Jean Obrist wrote:
> > On Nov 12th, I saw a stunning Norther Harrier
> hunting low and slow > over hay fields on Stepp Rd near Goodwater Rd.  
> First one I've seen > near my place.  I couldn't miss the striking white
> rump.> Jean Obrist
> > Bruners Grove
> > Cocke Co, TN
> I was startled to see a female Northern Harrier fly over Murphy Rd. in 
> Nashville just after dawn Monday 11/14. Big white rump gave it away as 
> it headed in a southerly direction. The local crows got pretty excited.
> Marty DeHart
> Bon Aqua, TN
> Hickman Co
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 22:28:53 +0000 (UTC)
> From: jos
> handkarina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [TN-Bird] Re: Possible Immature Goshawk 
> Nashville, TN
> 
> Thanks for all of your comments.  It seems it is now confirmed it is a
> juvenile female cooper's.  I was meeting someone for work by the stadium
> when this happened, and I happened to have my camera in the car.  I shot a
> short HD video also, which I may try to post on youtube, but it is pretty
> gruesome.  I've attached another  picture of this hawk, and a picture of a
> juvenile male cooper's hawk I saw in front of Mt. Olivet Cemetery on
> Lebanon Rd. on October 18 with a blue-jay kill.  I know about reversed size
> dimorphism in raptors, but the "stadium hawk"  seemed enormous compared to
> the "cemetery hawk" I thought it must be a different species.  Oh well, it
> was still a nice encounter.  Thanks again for your comments and correct id
> of the bird.
> Josh
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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