Sorry, hadn't meant to imply that the birds weren't Cliffs and certainly not that they were 100+ Caves. Just that 100+ Cliffs this late is a noteworthy number and that we should look through such large swallow groups this time of year for Caves. Sorry for the confusing email that I rushed off on my way to a meeting. Dean Edwards Knoxville, TN On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, michael sledjeski wrote: > Dean Edwards e-mailed me about the swallow observation in my post > yesterday. October 9 is unusually late for clilff swallows in TN - he > suggested that I might have been looking at cave swallows. The flock was > flying due east late in the day, high overhead, and looked to be all the > same species - square-tailed, dusky-throated. When I took a closer look at > a couple of individuals with binoculars, I could make out buffy/orange color > on the throat. I mistakenly ruled out rough-winged, not knowing that the > juveniles have coloring on the throat, and, in retrospect, attributing the > darkness of the wings to the time of day. I compared cliff and cave > swallows in my field guide, ruled out cave as being paler-throated than what > I'd seen, and concluded cliff, which are very common in the area through the > summer. Leslie agreed, though she hadn't gotten a look through her > binoculars. > > It's too late for a better look, so I'll have to amend the report to read > "swallow spp. (100+)". > > Thanks, Dean. > > Michael Sledjeski > > > >> Subject: [Bristol-Birds] Rankin shorebird>Rankin peninsula (lower Rankin >> Bottoms & Ten Islands), Cocke county; 10/9/06, 4:00 PM - 7:00 PM; by canoe >> from Leadvale boat launch. Douglas Lake elevation: 975.2. >> >> Mudflats are diminishing at Rankin Bottoms, increasing at Ten Islands >> (downstream to the west). We saw the usual good numbers of Canada geese, >> mallards, cormorants, great blues herons, great egrets, and black vultures. >> Also: >> >> Red-tailed hawk >> Blue-winged teal (68) >> Greeen-winged teal (22) >> Semipalmated plover (4) >> Killdeer (37) >> Greater yellowlegs (2) >> Least sandpiper (80+) >> Pectoral sandpiper >> DUNLIN (3 - first of season) >> Ring-billed gull (8) >> Swallow spp.(100+) >> >> Michael Sledjeski & Leslie Gibbens >> Cocke county > > > =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== > > The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with > first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. > You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds > you report were seen. 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