[TN-Bird] Re: Nashville Warbler (???)

  • From: Chris Sloan <csloan1973@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rknight8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:08:43 -0500

I will post more substantive comments when I have time after work, but I
stand by my response to Ed that, in my opinion, this is quite clearly a
Common Yellowthroat for a number of reasons.

Chris Sloan
Nashville, TN

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Richard Knight <rknight8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> A few days back Ed Schneider posted a photo of a warbler for which he was
> unsure of
> the ID.  In an off-list email conversation, he said the the consensus
> opinion was for
> female Common Yellowthroat.  There has been no public discussion of the
> ID, so I am
> weighing in.
> I believe it is a Nashville Warbler.
> My reasoning:
> 1)  the head is too gray for female Com. Yellowthroat, which should be
> brownish-olive.
> 2)  the eye-ring is a little too bold, but head color & eye-ring are right
> for Nashville.
> 3)  the yellow underneath is too extensive & even-toned for yellowthroat,
> which should
>      be shaded from fairly bright in throat to dull yellow on lower breast.
> 4)  culmen shape appears to be straight, unlike slightly down-curved for
> yellowthroat.
> The amount of yellow underneath & bill shape are good for Nashville.
> While Nashville Warblers in spring migration usually occur higher up in
> trees than the
> bird in the photo, which is in blackberry brambles, I often see fall
> migrant Nashvilles
> in low shrubby stuff including goldenrod & ragweed.  So habitat shouldn't
> be an issue.
> Photo IDs are sometimes harder than in-life IDs, since there is only one
> angle per photo,
>  no vocalizations or behavioral clues, etc.  However, you can stare at the
> photo for as
> long as you want & analyze visible details.
> Apparently this would be the first summer record of a Nashville Warbler in
> TN, as
> Robinson (1990) lists none & I don't recall any since then.  It could be a
> very late
> spring migrant or, more likely, an early fall migrant (perhaps a failed
> breeder) or
> a wandering non-breeder.  Nashvilles do nest as far south as northern West
> Virginia.
> Comments welcome.
> Rick Knight
> Johnson City, TN
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ed Schneider <ed.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> *To: *tn bird <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* 6/23/2012 3:39:54 PM
> *Subject:* [TN-Bird] Nashville Warbler (???)
> Bells Bend Park, Davidson Co.
> 23 June, 2012
> I realize there are no summer records for this bird, and I wouldn't expect
> there to be. I of course thought I was
> photographing a female Common Yellowthroat, but the eye ring seemed WAY to
> strong compared to the female
> and first year yellowthroats I've seen.
> That being said, the bill shape doesn't scream Oreothylpis to me at all,
> and the habitat is of course all wrong for
> Nashville even in migration.
> Anyone care to share some thoughts on a bird that threw me for a small
> loop this morning? I imagine COYE can
> be extremely variable, and I'm still an advanced novice at best... always
> nice to get a photo of a questionable bird,
> however.
> Thanks,
> Ed Schneider
> Davidson Co.

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