Reading posts here and elsewhere, it seems to me there is some confusion about the migratory geese in Tennessee and what the "Lesser" Canada Goose really is. The basics, as I have understood them: The year-round resident geese are a bit of a synthetic blend, containing a lot of blood from the "Giant" Canada Goose, B. c. maxima. They are generally large in size with long necks and long legs. The somewhat smaller geese that are common in wintering flocks are *not* "Lesser" Canada Geese. They are primarily smaller individuals of the "Interior" Canada Goose, B. c. minima. These are the ones that are moderately smaller and shorter-necked than the big resident birds, and are very common. The real "Lesser" Canada Goose, B. c. parvipes, is not a common bird here. They are notably smaller and far closer in size to "Richardson's" Cackling Goose (B. h. hutchinsii) than they are to the "Interior" geese. They are short- necked, short-billed, short-legged as well as being distinctly small even without a "normal" Canada Goose for comparison. They overlap broadly with B. h. hutchinsii in all measurements and plumage characters, including bill length and total body mass, as far as I have been able to determine. In eastern Colorado, where the relative abundances of these four subspecies are more evenly spread, a flock of winter geese tends to look like a complete multidimensional spectrum of sizes, shapes, and colors. They don't sort out at all neatly into four "kinds." Sorry to be a bit redundant here, but this is a confusing field issue that still needs a lot of work to sort out. Bill Pulliam Hohenwald TN =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds you report were seen. The actual DATE OF OBSERVATION should appear in the first paragraph. _____________________________________________________________ To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. ______________________________________________________________ TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Assistant Moderator Andy Jones Cleveland, OH ------------------------------- Assistant Moderator Dave Worley Rosedale, VA __________________________________________________________ Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ARCHIVES TN-Bird Net Archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/tn-bird/ EXCELLENT MAP RESOURCES Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp Tenn.Counties Map at http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/states/tennessee3.gif Aerial photos to complement google maps http://local.live.com _____________________________________________________________