[TN-Bird] Re: More Controversy Over Ivory-billed Woodpecker Video
- From: "thelma hughes cumbie" <thelmahughescumbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <cpnichol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:55:24 -0500
Chuck,
It is rewarding to become aware/knowledgeable of these journal publications,
especially studies, on the Ivory-bill..... it would seem that there would be
more about this in regular news.
I feel and hope that more is being discovered... and perhaps that it is wisely
not being published because of endangerment to the bird... do I dare say birds?
Tess Cumbie
Buladean, NC
Herndon Birding Chapter
Elizabethton, Tn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles P. Nicholson" <cpnichol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 7:59 PM
Subject: [TN-Bird] More Controversy Over Ivory-billed Woodpecker Video
> Late last week an article was published in the journal BMC Biology that
> questions the identification of the bird in the famous April, 2004 Luneau
> video. This article is available at
> http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/5/8/abstract. Following is a brief
> discussion of the article from the American Association for the Advancement
> of Science ScienceNOW news briefs.
>
>
> Chuck Nicholson
>
> Norris, TN
>
>
> Ivory-Billed Imposter?
>
>
> By Erik Stokstad
> ScienceNOW Daily News
> 15 March 2007
>
> New evidence casts more doubt on the claim that a bird long thought extinct
> is still alive and flapping. In 2005, the birding world was riveted by a
> report that the majestic ivory-billed woodpecker (Campephilus principalis)
> had been definitively spotted in Arkansas (
> <http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2005/428/1> ScienceNOW,
> 28 April 2005). Since then, some scientists have voiced doubts about the
> strength of the evidence. Now a video suggests that the re-discoverers may
> have mistaken a large, common woodpecker for the ivory-billed.
>
> The original report of the ivory-billed woodpecker (
> <http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/308/5727/1460> Science, 3 June
> 2005, p. 1460) was based on three lines of evidence. First, a grainy,
> 4-second video filmed by electrical engineer David Luneau of the University
> of Arkansas in Little Rock showed a bird resembling an ivory-billed
> woodpecker as it flew from a tree in the Cache River National Wildlife
> Refuge in eastern Arkansas. Second, several experienced volunteers reported
> sightings of a similar bird. And finally, acoustical recorders placed in the
> area by the research team, led by John Fitzpatrick of the Cornell Lab of
> Ornithology in Ithaca, New York, caught cries and knocking noises like those
> made by ivory-billed woodpeckers.
>
> Skeptics were not convinced by the video. In a technical comment last year,
> David Sibley of Concord, Massachusetts, and three scientists argued that the
> depicted bird could have been a pileated woodpecker (
> <http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;311/5767/1555a> Science,
> 17 March 2006, p. 1555). Sibley, an author of bird identification books,
> noted that the trailing edge of the bird's wings was black, as in a pileated
> woodpecker. If the bird were an ivory-billed woodpecker, this edge should
> have been white. The Cornell team countered that the black coloring was in
> fact part of the background, and that video does show white wings with white
> trailing edges. What's more, Fitzpatrick pointed out that the bird in the
> Luneau video beat its wings 8.6 times a second, faster than is known for
> pileated woodpeckers.
>
> Now, there's new video evidence. Taken by amateur birder David Nolin, the
> grainy films capture pileated woodpeckers flying away from the camera, much
> like in the ivory-billed video. When J. Martin Collinson, a human geneticist
> and avid birder at Aberdeen University in the United Kingdom, analyzed the
> videos, he found that some frames showed wings with no black trailing edge
> (see photo). "The pileated woodpecker can produce wing patterns that look
> more like what you'd expect from an ivory-billed," he concludes. "I'm quite
> convinced that the bird in the Luneau video is a pileated woodpecker." In
> addition, one of the pileateds beats its wings as fast the bird in the
> Luneau video, Collinson reports today in BMC Biology.
>
> Sibley says the new paper backs his argument: "He's documenting for the fist
> time how ivory-billed-like a pileated can be." But Fitzpatrick disagrees. He
> points out that the pileated woodpecker in Nolin's video quickly slows its
> wingbeats, as pileated woodpeckers are known to do. The bird in the Luneau
> video, in contrast, continues to fly rapidly for all 4 seconds. As for the
> plumage, he says that the Nolin video was not properly processed for
> frame-by-frame analysis. "The result is a blur and confusing to decide where
> the black and white are," he says.
>
> Who's right? That's a hard call to make--and probably will remain so without
> clearer evidence to analyze. "A good photo or video would end this debate
> tomorrow," Collinson says.
>
>
>
>
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