[TN-Bird] Re: Fwd: Re: Cranes and TWRA Chairperson Mike Chase
- From: amjwoody@xxxxxxxxxxx
- To: wgpu239@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 23:36:22 +0000 (UTC)
The door was opened on 10/25/10 by Kelly Roy. Voting for the amendment is the
clear implication of Roy's arguments.  I've been wondering when this would
become tit for tat. I'm voting for tat and against tit!!!!!
Alice Woody
Knox County
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bates E." <wgpu239@ gmail .com>
To: bmattheu @southern. edu , "TN-Bird" <tn-bird@ freelists .org>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:11:22 PM
Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Fwd: Re: Cranes and TWRA Chairperson Mike Chase
Is TN Birds an appropriate place to be advocating either side of a political
issue?
But, now that you have opened that door, let me note that I am long-time
conservationist, birder, and hunter. Â I support this proposition. Â As such,
I intend to email Mr. Chase and express that support, along with the many
others who already have.
Thank you.
Bates Estabrooks
Anderson County
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bonnie Mattheus < bmattheu @southern. edu
>wrote:
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Â Â Â Â Re: [TN-Bird] Cranes and TWRA Chairperson Mike Chase
> Date: Â Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:20:05 -0400
> From: Â Melinda Welton < weltonmj @ earthlink .net>
> To: Â Â Bonnie Mattheus < bmattheu @southern. edu >
> CC: Â Â Cyndi Routledge < routledges @ bellsouth .net>
>
>
>
> Bonnie
> I did a search and found the article,
> Something must have happened when I copied the link � if this works for
> you, would you send it out on TNBirds ?
>
>
> www . knoxnews .com/news/2010/ oct /23/proposal-to-hunt- sandhill
> -cranes-should-be/
>
> Thank you for you active interest � they need to hear a fire-storm of
> opposition to turn this train around.
>
> Melinda
>
>
>
> �When one tugs at a single thing in nature, they find it attached to the
> rest of the world.� ~John Muir
>
> Â Â Â Interestingly, the knoxnews link does not link. Â Like the page
> Â Â has been taken down.
> Â Â Â Bonnie
>
>
> Â Â Â On 10/27/2010 11:26 AM, Melinda Welton wrote:
>
>
> Â Â Â Â Dear all,
> Â Â Â Â Sylvia Anglin's recent post about sending in comments about the
> Â Â Â Â cranes
> Â Â Â Â mentions that Mike Chase had only received one letter opposing
> Â Â Â Â the crane
> Â Â Â Â hunt as of October 19th. Please note that Mike Chase is the
> Â Â Â Â Chairperson of
> Â Â Â Â the TWRA Commission. He's apparently paying attention to the
> Â Â Â Â comments that
> Â Â Â Â he is getting.
> Â Â Â Â His address is:
> Â Â Â Â P.O. Box 50370
> Â Â Â Â Knoxville, TN 37950
> Â Â Â Â Business: (865) 522-3500
> Â Â Â Â Fax: (865) 522-8526
> Â Â Â Â E-mail: mike.chase@xxxxxx
>
> Â Â Â Â Cyndi Routledge , thank you for sending this link.
>
> http :// www . knoxnews .com/news/2010/ oct /23/proposal-to-hunt- sandhill
> -cranes-sh
> Â Â Â Â ould-be/
> Â Â Â Â The author hits on some of the most important points, in my
> opinion.
>
> Â Â Â Â Melinda Welton
> Â Â Â Â Franklin, TN
>
>
>     �When one tugs at a single thing in nature, they find it
> Â Â Â Â attached to the
>     rest of the world.� ~John Muir
>
>
>
>
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â This article is SO well written. Thanks, Vickie, for
> Â Â Â Â Â Â providing the link.
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Multiple addresses of TN officials involved in this issue
> Â Â Â Â Â Â are provided in
> Â Â Â Â Â Â this article. I can't help but copy and paste the following
> Â Â Â Â Â Â compelling
> Â Â Â Â Â Â section:
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â *UPDATE: As of Tuesday, October 19, Mike Chase had received
> Â Â Â Â Â Â exactly ONE
> Â Â Â Â Â Â letter in protest. And that was from Janet McKnight. He
> Â Â Â Â Â Â called her to thank
> Â Â Â Â Â Â her for writing. My screed should arrive today. So then
> Â Â Â Â Â Â he'll have two
> Â Â Â Â Â Â letters of protest. This is a well-publicized thing-better
> Â Â Â Â Â Â now, thanks to
> Â Â Â Â Â Â 10,000 Birds. And yet even Tennessee's birders remain
> Â Â Â Â Â Â silent-perhaps happy
> Â Â Â Â Â Â to passively enjoy birds without bothering to question their
> Â Â Â Â Â Â state's
> Â Â Â Â Â Â management choices. Birders, if you don't act, you've no
> Â Â Â Â Â Â room to complain
> Â Â Â Â Â Â about the outcome of this proposal. Â Think about training
> Â Â Â Â Â Â your binoculars on
> Â Â Â Â Â Â a family group of sandhill cranes kiting into a cornfield,
> Â Â Â Â Â Â hearing shots,
> Â Â Â Â Â Â and seeing two crumple to the ground. If that thought
> Â Â Â Â Â Â bothers you, WRITE.
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Sylvia Anglin
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Nashville
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â ----- Original Message -----
> Â Â Â Â Â Â From: < Viclcsw @ aol .com> < mailto : Viclcsw @ aol .com>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â To: <tn-bird@ freelists .org> < mailto :tn-bird@ freelists
> .org>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:20 AM
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Subject: [TN-Bird] NPR Commentator Julie Zickefoose on TN's
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Crane hunt
> Â Â Â Â Â Â proposal
>
>
>
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â You may already know Julie Zickefoose as artist,
> writer,
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â birder and NPR
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â commentator. Â TN's Janet McKnight alerted her to the
>         hunt proposal in  TN.
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â As
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â a result, she wrote a commentary on hunting cranes in
>         one of  the most
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â read
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â birding blogs on the internet . Â Read what she has to
> say
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â and if you
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â haven't already responded, give thought to your own
>         response to  the call
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â for
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â comment on TWRA's proposal to hunt TN's sandhill
> cranes.
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Most of all, use your voice.
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Here is the link to her comments and to the many
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â responses she has already
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â received.
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â _ http
> ://10000birds.com/shooting-sandhills-in-tennessee. htm _
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ( http
> ://10000birds.com/shooting-sandhills-in-tennessee. htm )
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Vickie Henderson
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Knoxville, TN
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Knox County
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Rosedale, VA
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