[TN-Bird] Re: Franklin County, Winchester Whoopers Still Here
- From: "Martin Hall" <rmhall@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <mmcghee@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:58:44 -0600
Mack
I agree with you too. With the limited number of Whoopers there are now =
and
the very slow rate that their numbers are growing, most of us will be =
dead
and gone by the time the cranes reach the numbers that Mr. Roedel thinks
they should be before we try to see them. And like you say, who better =
than
birders to keep an eye on the cranes. Would the Ornithologist even know
where the birds were if not for the birders? And as far as human
interaction, you saw how far away the birds are from the road and on =
private
property too. They don't even know we're in the world. If anything would
bother them it would be the industrial park and National Guard Armory =
right
across the road.
I'm glad you and your wife got a chance to see the cranes. You never =
know,
you may never get a chance to see them again in your lifetime. Give me a
call, I don't mind sharing information with other birders, even if they =
work
for the "Govment"
Martin Hall
Lynchburg, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: mmcghee@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mmcghee@xxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:55 AM
To: rmhall@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [TN-Bird] Franklin County, Winchester Whoopers Still Here
Martin,
Thanks for sending this out. I differ with the TWRA on this matter. =
You
are not sending the e-mail out to the general public. Who better to =
watch
after the Whooping Cranes than birders, as long as they abide by the =
rules
of birding ethics - which I believe most do. If no one watched them =
some
idiot would come along harass or shoot them. We have had two of the
recently released elk that wondered into our area be shot.
Anyway, my wife and I drove out yesterday (Sunday, March 20) to see the
cranes. It was really a marvelous site. We saw one last month at the
Hiwassee Wildlife Refuge, but it was flying and was a long way off. We =
were
really shocked that on such a beautiful Sunday afternoon there was no =
one
else there. I got some decent photos with my telephoto, but just seeing
them was a real treat. I would like to know if they stop over or winter
there again next winter. Maybe I could call or e-mail you or you could =
call
or e-mail us. I hope to have a bigger telephoto lens by then.
Thanks,
Mack McGhee, Jr.
Roane County
Harriman, TN
(865) 882-0011
In regard to messages posted about the location of whooping cranes in
Tennessee...
We realize and appreciate the excitement at being able to observe =
wintering
whooping cranes in Tennessee. However, we would ask that until the
population is established, birders refrain from broadcasting the exact
location of the birds on the list or elsewhere.
The USFWS and their partners have expended a great deal of effort and =
money
in this reintroduction campaign. At this time, there are only about 50
birds in the entire eastern migratory population. Each of these birds =
has
been pen raised in situations where they never actually see humans. We =
work
very hard to assure that they do not become habituated to humans. Such
habituation makes humans seem less of a threat to the birds. That loss =
of
fear of humans has occasionally resulted in the death of a bird.
We realize that nearly everyone wants the opportunity to observe these
majestic birds in the wild. Please be patient and thoughtful of the =
needs
of the species. It is very important that these whooping cranes be =
given as
much privacy as possible in this crucial reintroduction stage. The =
entire
world population is still very small. The genetic
diversity is very low. Every bird matters. If this reintroduction is
compromised, we could lose this species and absolutely no one wants that =
to
happen.=20
If you feel you must go to see these birds, please keep these things in
mind. Remind anyone you see disturbing the birds, or trying to get =
closer
for photos, of these facts. Hopefully in a few years time this =
population
will be large enough that we can all enjoy seeing this bird on a regular
basis. For more information on the whooping crane reintroduction =
project
see:
http://www.bringbackthecranes.org/index.html
Michael Roedel, State Ornithologist
Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency
P.O. Box 40747 Nashville, TN 37204
voice (615) 781-6653
fax (615) 781-6654
michael.roedel@xxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.state.tn.us/twra
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Hall [mailto:rmhall@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 2:08 AM
To: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [TN-Bird] Franklin County, Winchester Whoopers Still Here
I went through Winchester this afternoon, Saturday, the 12th of March at
around 4:00 p.m. and decided to swing by and see if the three Whooping
Cranes were still in the area. They are still in the wet weather pond
directly behind the National Guard Amory in Winchester, which is in =
Franklin
County, TN. It's looks as if they've decided to winter with us this =
year.
The pond is very easy to find and by the looks of the grass along the
shoulder of the road, several people have been stopping to get a look at
them. The pond is also home to several Mallards, Gadwalls, Northern
Shovellers, Pintails and a pair of Black Ducks. But the stars of the =
show
are the Whoopers. I also thought to take along my GPS for those of you =
who
wanted coordinates. Here's the GPS position: N350 10' 26.5" - W0860 08'
13.2" That's from the road about 300 yards east of the pond where the
cranes were. If you've never seen one, this is a very good chance
considering how long they've been in the area. If you can't find the NGA =
on
the west side of town, just ask any policeman in town. They'll be glad =
to
give you directions. Happy birding.
=20
Martin Hall
Lynchburg, TN
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