[TN-Bird] Re: Eagle Bend Fish Hatchery

  • From: Chris Sloan <csloan1973@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: theprojectroom@xxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:51:39 -0500

Well, on that note, I'm giving a program on shorebird identification this
Thursday evening for NTOS.


Chris Sloan
Nashville, TN
http://www.chrissloanphotography.com


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Jerry Webb <theprojectroom@xxxxxxxx>wrote:

> You guys need to get together and write a shorebird ID book.  I'll buy the
> first copy and put my  Peterson guide on the shelf!!
>
>
> Jerry Webb
> The Project Room Studio
> 111 Freehill Rd, Hendersonville TN 37075
> 615 300 7026
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: Michael Todd <birder1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Sharon Monett <sbm4him@xxxxxxxxx>, Tennessee Birds <
> tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Eagle Bend Fish Hatchery
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:36:53 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
> Good points.  I glossed over 1814 too quickly.  Size would be a good
> clue in real life.  Upper breast is more heavily streaked like a Pec but
> doesn't show as strong demarcation... maybe a female?  Yellow bill base
> should have been the kicker... I missed that.  Agreed.  Adult Pectoral.
>
> Dean Edwards
> Knoxville, TN
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Aug 2013, Michael Todd wrote:
>
> > Dean/All,
> > �
> > Thanks Dean for taking the time to give some detailed answers! I agree
> almost totally:
> > �
> > On the Dowitcher, I also think Short-billed on bill shape with downward
> kink towards end, very pale coloration below blending to white, and the
> sparse but pretty uniform spotting down down breastsides and flanks.
> Long-billed lose the barring more readily than Short-billed, so that by
> August they usually have markings heaviest at breast sides and very light
> to absent along flanks. Better/additional looks would be nice on this bird
> though.
> > �
> > 1814 I would call an adult Pectoral, with the long primary extension and
> yellowish bill base.
> > �
> > Good Birding!!
> > �
> > Mike Todd
> > McKenzie, TN
> > birder1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > www.pbase.com/mctodd
> > �
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: "kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Sharon Monett <sbm4him@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Tennessee Birds <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:25 AM
> > Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Eagle Bend Fish Hatchery
> >
> >
> >
> > See my notes below...
> >
> > Dean Edwards
> > Knoxville, TN
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Aug 2013, Sharon Monett wrote:
> >
> > > 1574: Least sandpiper seems to be the consensus.
> >
> > Correct. Juvenile.� Note the fresh plumage and the pattern of the
> > scapulars (the feathers just over the folded wing on the back)... black
> > center with rusty orange edges and white tips.� These white tips on the
> > mantle (center part of the back) make two white lines that form a V.�
> The
> > white tips are a key point to look for in Least SP, and I will come back
> > to that below.� Also note the yellow legs which help distinguish Least
> > from other peeps... this can be a good point if seen but should not be
> an
> > end-all-be-all field mark... other peeps can rarely have yellowish legs
> or
> > legs covered in yellow-looking mud or Least can have legs covered in
> dark
> > mud, etc.� Finally, note how the coverts (small feathers covering the
> > wings) and tertials (wing feathers covering the tail) are also dark
> > centered with rusty orange edges giving a uniform appearance to the back
> > (except for the white spots).� Remember this for later.
> >
> > > 1675: Spotted, maybe winter plumage?
> >
> > Correct but a juvenile.
> >
> > > 1688: No guesses yet
> >
> > Spotted SP.� Looks like a molting adult as there appears to be some
> > spotting underneath.� These guys are IDable in flight from great
> distance
> > by their stiff-winged flight style.� Here, note the white wing stripe
> and
> > all dark tail and rump.� Also note the white eyering.
> >
> >
> > > 1713: One guess for semipalmated sandpiper, one guess for Least.
> >
> > Juvenile Least SP.� Compare with 1574.� yellow legs, scapular pattern,
> > etc.� Coverts and tertials are more contrasty than in 1574 with buffy
> > edges instead of rusty orange but still good for a Least.
> >
> >
> > > 1746: Consensus is Dowitcher; no one so far ventured a guess as to
> whether
> > > it's short-billed or long-billed.
> >
> > I'm going to go with adult "hendersoni" Short-billed Dowitcher.� Note
> the
> > worn state of the feathers clearly indicating an adult, still mostly in
> > breeding plumage.� The orange wash to the underparts goes all the way to
> > the tail (eliminates "griseus" SB Dowitcher but not LB).� The spotting
> up
> > top and small chevrons on the flanks (rather than heavy, long bars as
> for
> > LB) and the more slender overall shape (not the "I just swallowed a
> > grapefruit" look of a LB) points me to SB.
> >
> >
> > > 1758: Guesses have included Solitary or Yellowlegs. I was thinking
> Solitary
> > > originally.
> >
> > Juvenile Spotted SP.� compare with 1675.� Note the back is barred with
> > buffy edges to the fresh juvenile feathers, NOT spotted as in Solitary.�
> > Also note the classic eye ring of a juvenile Spotted... Solitary have
> > spectacles with white loral strip (like it's wearing glasses).� The
> > overall posture is classic Spotted SP.� Note how the brown on the neck
> and
> > upper breast a) does not connect in the middle and b) makes a "thumb"
> that
> > sticks down in front of the wing surrounded by white.� Finally, look at
> > the tail.� First, it extends beyond the wingtips as in Spotted and
> unlike
> > Solitary.� Second, it is brown.� Solitary have a very distinctive tail
> > pattern... dark center, white edges with lateral dark stripes.� From the
> > side on a standing bird, the white with black stripes is very evident.
> >
> >
> > > 1781: Spotted
> >
> > Correct.� Adult in breeding plumage.
> >
> > > 1814: No guesses given
> >
> > Adult Least SP.� Note the worn, tattered feathers ageing this as an
> adult
> > bird... not the bright, fresh plumage of the juveniles above.� Legs are
> > yellow, scapulars and coverts have dark center and buffy edges.� Overall
> > brown appearance with heavy coloration on the upper breast.
> >
> >
> > > 1853: Guesses included Least, Semipalmated and Western. So far, Western
> > > seems to be the consensus.
> >
> > Juvenile Least SP.� Compare with above.� First, note the fresh plumage
> so
> > this is a juvenile something.� The yellow legs are not as obvious here
> so
> > focus on the scapulars, coverts, and tertials and compare with 1574.�
> > Scapulars are dark centered with rusty orange edges and white tips.� You
> > can see a bit of the V on the back.� Coverts and tertials also have
> rusty
> > orange edging.� Also note the heavily streaked upper breast.� Western
> > should have more reddish color on the scapular edges without the white
> > tips and the coverts and tertials have cold, grey edges that contrast
> with
> > the scaps... not the uniform orangey look of a Least.
> >
> >
> > > 1858: Spotted
> >
> > Correct.� Adult in breeding plumage.
> >
> > > 1969: Consensus is Pectoral
> >
> > Correct.� Adult in breeding plumage.� Note the heavy barred upper breast
> > that ends sharply.� Also note the worn feather edges on the scapulars
> and
> > coverts that help age the bird.� Can look similar to Least SP but much
> > larger.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > For the non-shore birds:
> > > 1984: Red-winged blackbirds. Maybe young? Maybe female? Maybe young
> > > females? I had previous pictures of female rwbs that didn't seem to
> look
> > > like this (but that was back in the spring, so different plumage, I
> guess?)
> > > so I'd never have guessed that's what these were. Several though
> > > meadowlark, which had been my initial thought until I realized the
> beak was
> > > all wrong.
> >
> > Juvenile RW Blackbirds.� At least one looks like a male with red coming
> > in on sholder.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 1987: Juvenile Starling. This was actually my initial thought because
> of
> > > the beak. But again, just last week, I was at Eagle Bend and saw a MUCH
> > > larger bird that looked TOTALLY different from this one that also
> turned
> > > out to be a juvenile starling, so that threw me. Interesting how
> quickly,
> > > and completely, their plumage can change.
> > >
> >
> > Correct.� In heavy molt.� Note the "stars" coming in on the chest.
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