TN Birders This subject has caught my intrest before. Along side my copy "Silent = Spring" by Rachel Carson I find a copy of "Trashing the Planet" by Dixy = Lee Ray. Ms. Carson's idea's have echoed through time and even here we = read them again. A less know side of the coin, so to speak, is shown by = Dr. Ray as she reports increases in bird populations throughout the DDT = years as per annual counts by the Audubon Society at Christmastime and = Hawk Mountain Sanctuary annual hawk counts. She contends DDT's abuse not = use is/was harmful. Further, the quote "..more than 93% of DDT is broken = down in 38 days, but one part per trillion can be detected in inshore = waters." is found in the same title. "Til we bird again Rack Cross Blountville, TN Sullivan County =20 -----Original Message----- From: James Brooks <comeback@xxxxxxxx> To: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: [tn-bird] Re: DDT NOT BAD, ENVIRONMENTALISTS BAD Public health officials in places like Amazonian Brazil (I've=20 interviewed one from Manaus) say DDT is the pesticide of choice and is=20 used there for malaria control. The reason it kills birds is that it does not break down and is thus=20 passed on from insects to fish to birds that eat fish, like bald eagles. = The immediate effect on them is egg shell thinning, so the egg breaks=20 while being incubated by the weight of the mother. They use it in the rain forest for the same reason: it does not break=20 down in an environment where it rains every day. Of course it does get=20 washed downstream. The public health people have identified malaria as=20 the number one health hazard and are willing to go to extreme risks to=20 fight it. In the tropics there are bromeliades that collect rain water and breed=20 mosquitoes, sometimes high in the trees. No amount of spraying DDT in=20 the backwaters of the Amazon will ever eradicate malaria, and 40 years=20 of it just proves that. Deeper in the jungle, indiginous people run=20 naked and are not affected by malaria until white man's civilization is=20 intruded upon them. We might do better to ask why this is so. This business of ecology is complex and requires us to think things=20 through rather than reaching for the nearest band-aid in the form of a=20 poison spray or powder. What are the consequences of our actions? Is a=20 crises, or something perceived as a crises going to spur us to take=20 actions sensible people would not normally take? Has anyone thought about how West Nile virus came into this country in=20 the first place? It appears to be a more serious problem for bird=20 populations than for humans, where it seems to mostly affect people in=20 my age class who have already lived a lifetime or so. They have a=20 vaccine for horses and probably will be testing a version for humans=20 next year. In our part of the country it will pass for now with first=20 frost. Think it through. Does it make sense to come up with an old means of=20 destroying mosquitoes when there are newer, safer, and probably more=20 effective larvacides on the market? Have you cleaned out your gutters=20 yet? Does it make sense to use something that kills large birds in order = to protect them from a disease that is mostly killing large birds? James Brooks Jonesborough, TN Bill Darnell wrote: >Aren't the only countries in the world with Malaria still using DDT? = This >is just a BS argument! 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