TN-Birders: To put things in a little perspective about the ability of a Cooper's Hawk to carry a house cat, it would at best determine the size of the kitten. I would think it very doubtful that a full grown, adult female (largest of the species) Cooper's Hawk can carry much over 8 ounces of weight. A male might not be able to lift more than about 5 ounces. I do know this much for a fact. We have for years trapped and banded Red-tailed Hawks and Cooper's Hawks during winter raptor studies. We use a small cage with a starling or mouse to lure the hawk to come after it for food. The hawk's feet become tangled in little nooses and it can't escape until we run back to the bird and pick it up for banding. The cage with mouse weighs 1.5 pounds (24 ounces). A male Red-tailed (3.4 pounds) and a female Red-tailed (5.1 pounds) can not carry the trap but can drag it a short distance of a few feet. Generally, a Red-tail cannot lift more than 30% of its body weight A male Cooper's Hawk (1.1 pounds) and a female Cooper's (1.7 pounds) can barely move the trap and cannot lift it or drag it nearly as well as a Red-tailed of either sex. Therefore, if a female Cooper's Hawk cannot lift more than 30% of her weight she is limited to about 8 ounces of prey lift if it is taken from the ground. If she jumped off a building or a cliff with that much weight her fall and wing loading plus power flapping might hold both the hawk and prey up for a few yards. An 8 ounce kitten is not very big. But a big female Cooper's Hawk could possibly get the job done without much trouble. If a full grown house cat gets a hold of a Cooper's Hawk of any size, you would probably find a pile of feathers and little loss fur. Let's go birding...... Wallace Coffey Bristol, TN =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net Owner: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN jwcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx (423) 764-3958 =========================================================