A basic freedom will hold that the state wildlife agency cannot tell you what you can look at and when you can look. Just imagine how you would ever define what birding is. Is it looking at birds in your backyard ? Noticing an eagle perched in a big tree near the road ? Watching a flock of cranes flying over a city park, or looking at them from the road in a farmer's field ? Are you watching birds if you are sitting in your house, in your car or standing on a public right-of-way ? What about looking from a boat ? Is it different if you look at a field of cranes without binoculars or with binoculars or with a scope ? What about families who simply stop to show their children the big birds or seniors out for a ride and happen to notice the birds. Will there have to be teenage licenses to bird ? Will you have to take a birding safety course from TWRA at a nearby recreation center so they can further justify their operations ? Will there be a different fee for looking at an eagle than looking at a vireo or woodpecker ? Will you have to have a permit to put out birdfeedrs or host a wintering hummingbird ? All of this sounds silly but it has to do with where it begins and end and if it begins or ends with your ability to look and see God's creations. If so, then that is tragic and more freedom is at risk. Is there an agency that can charge you watch the sunset ? If one of them can figure a way to do so, you will have to have a heartbeat in a minute. Republicans harp about wanting less government. Turning your birding life over to TWRA is not less government. They talk about less taxes. Buying a license or paying a tax to TWAR is not less government. The only reason we would buy a hunting license and such is so we can give the state some money because we want the influence to have them give us some money back ? I fear there is sort of a mentality that TWRA is becomoing the wildlife monetary bank ? Everyone makes a deposit but a few are willing to draw on deposits. I don't ask TWRA to give me grants or any other kinds of money. I have given them thousands over the years. They have mostly spent wildlife money on what benefits them. If I were going to the wildlife bank to ask for a handout to benefit projects I am interested in, then I would want to impress them that I give when the offering plate is being passed. Or when they are making a hunting regulation I don't agree with. We don't need to hold up a hunting liscense in order to prove that we have a right to remind them that they are charged by law to manage the wildlife and fisheries resources of the state. They already have their hands in my pockets everytime I buy a pair of binoculars and for everyone who owns a pair for no other reason than to simply watch boats pass by their home and see who is on their lands. They have no more rights to want dollars from the sale of birding field guides than they should to want taxes from every vehicle that drives on the public highway. They get that in some states and they would love every penny of it in Tennessee ? Should you have to buy an out-of-state birding permit if you go across the bridge to Arkansas, or Georgia, Kentucky, into North Carolina at Roan Mountain or the Smokies or even on the Bristol Christmas Bird Count in Virginia at South Holston Lake ? Should we pay for a license depending on what state we are in when we are looking ? At Musick's Campground on South Holston Lake, we are on private property and a significant number of the birds we see are in Virginia ? Are we not allowed to look over in Virginia from Tennessee without paying for a permit in Tennessee ? Just things we don't think about when we get too ambitious about giving TWRA the right to a licenses for birding. I have told TWRA, that if they want to have an entry fee and a window sticker to drive into a state-owned wildlife management area OK. Everyone with a picnic, jogging, taking photos and birding or playomg cards will be required to pay the same fee. The first thing they will want to do is declare the 600,000 acres of the Cherokee National Forest as needing one of their birding permits, claiming that is a wildlife management area with the US Forest Service. They do not spend a a quarter an acre on anything that has to do with songbirds in the National Forest. Most of what they spend money on is some college faculty who want monies from them for whatever they may be doing. TWRA pays some faculty people a ton of money simply to teach their wildlife officers how to look at birds. Who did you pay ? Then TVA will want a big ole permit but they have trouble keeping their roads open, toilets operating and gates unlocked to the general public as it is. Most of the volks in East Tennessee have an very significant amount of public lands and right-of-ways for birding. That is not true in much of the rest of the state. TWRA would require you to buy your gas at one of their state-owened gas pumps at a major inflated price before you could drive into these vast areas, if they could figure a way to get their hands on our monies. I understand why some people on this list will want more access and why some will want more handouts in the form of dollars from TWRA. But most of the birders of this state are not in need of either. Wallace Coffey Bristol, TN =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds you report were seen. 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