This is heartening news to know as I have often felt that there should be good bobwhite numbers there because of the land use pattern. Roger D. Applegate Small Game Coordinator Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency Ellington Agricultural Center PO Box 40747 Nashville, TN 37204 PH: 615/781-6616 FAX: 615/781-6654 Email: roger.applegate@xxxxxxxxxxx UPS Address: 440 Hogan Road Nashville, TN 37220 FedEx Address: 5107 Edmonson Pike Nashville, TN 37211 >>> Alice Loftin / Don Miller 10/12/11 8:27 PM >>> p { margin: 0; }October 12, 2011 I have read with interest the various posts on bobwhites today and thought I should add a few comments. I have kept daily bird records since January 1, 1994--most of which pertain to Greene County , where I live--and have been pleasantly surprised to have observed (heard, mostly) relatively a sizable number of bobwhites. In quite a few instances, the observations are of the same birds in or near the same locations, but in the aggregate, the picture is one of fairly widespread observations everywhere in the county except in heavily forested areas. I have even encountered bobwhites inside the Greeneville city limits. Almost all of my observations have been of birds in early successional habitats, and a great many of them have been on or near properties managed by TWRA. In fact, there are enough of these sites to allow me to predict with a fairly high degree of confidence where and when I will find a bobwhite. I often try to find one on our spring and fall counts to ensure minimal representation for the species. Greene is still an agriculturally significant county, and this surely has something to do with my findings,as many farm owners allow part of their property to revert to old fields. However, as parts of the county die off agriculturally, some land also reverts to old fields before it is sold for subdivisions or whatever, and this probably produces some bobwhite habitat for a short time. In any case, for various reasons, Greene is still a place where one is not stunned to hear or see a bobwhite. It is one of my passionate hopes as a resident of the county and a birder that concerted efforts by professionals and dedicated amateurs can secure a happy future for these magnificent animals. Don Miller Greeneville, Greene Co., TN From: "Roger Applegate" To: Viclcsw@xxxxxxx, tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 7:05:19 PM Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Bobwhite quail need more help This is a very timely topic. Next week at the TWRACommission meeting in Nashville, Don McKenzie, who is the director of theNational Bobwhite Conservation Initiative will be speaking briefly to the TWRACommission. Don's program, known as the NBCI, is headquartered in Knoxville atUT. This program is supported by TWRA and the state wildlife agencies of 20+states and counting. A national plan for restoring this bird has been launched,in a revised form, and each participating state will be preparing an NBCIplan to show how they can accomplish restoration. TWRA has drafted such a planand is awaiting its adoption in some form. As comments to some of the biological issues raised, I have made it my life'sgoal to know everything that is known about the ecology and biology ofbobwhites from the physiology of the cell all to way out to landscapesconsisting of the entire bobwhite range in the world (New England toGuatemala). In fact I have written a book on this subject that lacks apublisher because bobwhites aren't even of importance to the publishingbusiness. I am also conducting PhD research on this bird in my spare time.Completed dissertation is about 5 years away. This is my qualification foranswering or commenting on these questions. Now for the comments: We don't know how many bobwhites there need to be in a"community" in order to maintain a viable population. I wouldestimate, based on what we know, that it is several hundreds. What we areconfident in, is that it requicontiguous acresof really good habitat in order to sustain a viable population, whatever thatnumber may be. And yes the domesticated forms are bad news to populations.Mississippi State Univ. demonstrated this at Ames Plantation. A final note, one of the things to understand about BBS isthat there are issues with the way it is conducted that question how wellbobwhites are detected. First of all, it is run too late in the spring seasonto detect the largest numbers of bobwhites. Also, the analysis of this surveyis complicated and can barely to understood by anyone with less than a PHD inmath and statistics. Therefore, its interpretation is not straight forward.This does not, however, preclude that fact that it is unfortunately all we haveto go on at this point. And I do believe the declining trend. The real issue isthat you can?t extrapolate from the data that bobwhites will be extinct in aspecific year. They are already extinct in localized areas of the state, andcountry, but are quite numerous in others (although few others probably). Bobwhites respond well to management but ithas to be the right management. They evolved with old field successional habitatsmaintained by natural and Native American disturbance and thrive only whereland use accidentally provides these. The dominating dogma over the past 50 to 70 years has held that youneeded to ?farm? for bobwhites. Cropped farm land is a very poor surrogate forthis bird. Finally, and I apologize for making this so long, in caseyou are wondering, there is yet any evidence that bobwhites can be restored bytrap and transfer where they no longer exist. You can supplement areas withexisting populations if you wish, and this works, but there is little need todo this. If no bobwhites are there, you have to make is possible for already existingbirds to colonize on their own. That means you have to improve habitatimmediately adjacent to areas that already have bobwhite populations. There are many more details to all of thisbut will leave it at this. Ask any questions you like and I will have answersif answers are known. Also, we desperately need to fund contemporary researchon this bird. Roger D. Applegate Small Game Coordinator Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency Ellington Agricultural Center PO Box 40747 Nashville, TN 37204 PH: 615/781-6616 FAX: 615/781-6654 Email: roger.applegate@xxxxxxxxxxx UPS Address: 440 Hogan Road Nashville, TN 37220 FedEx Address: 5107 Edmonson Pike Nashville, TN 37211 >>> 10/12/11 11:14 AM >>> Thank you, Bill, for this insightful Breeding Bird Survey analysis. It is apparent that we ALL need to put our heads together, not as separate organizations, but all conservation groups as one community, to see what in addition to current efforts can be done to help the bobwhite quail in our state, and in our country. Shouldn't the bobwhite quail be listed as endangered in Tennessee/in the USA? Approximately nine years ago, I heard Ralph Dimmick, a biologist and expert on the bobwhite quail, speak at the sandhill crane festival at Birchwood. His words impressed me at that time, and the concern he raised for this species has remained with me. He showed graphs and described a community ecology that predicted the decline that is reported in Bill's analysis below. He likened the bobwhite quail and its breeding community to the passenger pigeon whose extinction could not be predicted with numbers ecology. The extinction of the passenger pigeon happened for many reasons, but one of the chief reasons was, it declined below the community size required for breeding. Do we know the numbers of bobwhites that must exist in a community inorder for breeding to occur? It is well known, that neither the wildness of this species nor its community ecology can be taught by humans. There will be no reintroduction of this bird if it's wild community ecology is lost. They become like domestic chickens, wi thout defense against predatiallowed on the listserve) Bill Pulliam's graph and analysis of the breeding bird surveys for bobwhite quail. In the alternative, please also visit the link to Bill's website to see his entire report. It is very interesting. Bobwhites are found in the group "waterfowl to herons". http://bbill.blogspot.com/2011/09/breeding-bird-survey-in- tennessee-45.html Northern Bobwhite 35 year change: -26.00 (-78%) ± 2.11 This is one of the most disturbing graphs that came out of this project. Not only has this formerly abundant bird shown a drastic decline, the drop appears to be linear (possibly even accelerating). Projecting this line forward shows a Bobwhite that has been effectively extirpated from Tennessee in 2014 -- just three years away. If you look at the change from 1966 to 2010 (rather than the difference in the 10-year averages), the decline is nearly 90%. In the 1960s this was one of the most abundant species on Tennessee BBS routes; in recent years it is has not been detected at all on many of them. Vickie Henderson Knoxville, TN Knox County In a message dated 10/11/2011 11:31:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, littlezz@xxxxxxxxx writes: I have done some examinations and analyses of the 45 years of Breeding Bird Survey data for Tennessee (1966 through 2010) and posted some of the results on my blog: http://bbill.blogspot.com/2011/09/breeding-bird-survey-in- tennessee-45.html Though some species have shown major declines since the BBS began in 1966, and one (Bewick's Wren) has been all but extirpated, overall the story is quite positive. Most species have increased during this time, with a median change of +66%. Raptors and forest birds have fared the best overall. Non-neotropical migrant forest species have on average tripled in abundance; raptors have shown a median increase of nearly 8-fold! Even the beleaguered neotropical migrants have for the most part held steady or increased. Bill Pulliam Hohenwald TN