[tmp] Re: questions about .talk files

  • From: Laz <lazmesa6@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tmp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 18:26:11 -0500

Hi Jessica,

Must be a problem on your end, as I just successfully downloaded it.
Perhaps your antivirus program? Maybe they no longer allow it to be
downloaded to XP since they no longer support it?

Laz

On 1/18/15, Jessica Brown <justforlistmessages531@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thank you. Yes. I am planning on using the rockbox utility, not
> rb clip. It seems to have more options and voice options. Yes. I
> also listened to your podcasts about both programs. I am having a
> problem downloading the runtime thing. I click your link, then
> click download, then check the box for the x86 file and click
> next, then I get a page saying if your download does not start in
> 30 seconds click here. It did not start, so I clicked the click
> here link. It still did not start downloading.
>
> Please go check out my website:
> http://blindnesseraserblog.wordpress.com which has lots of
> different info on a number of topics for blind and visually
> impaired people and which I have recently redone.  Also please
> check out my low traffic mailing list:
> //freelists.org/list/erasingblindness where we can talk
> about anything related to blindness.  Thank you.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Laz <lazmesa6@xxxxxxxxx
> To: tmp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 16:00:37 -0500
> Subject: [tmp] Re: questions about .talk files
>
> Hi Jessica,
>
> I've stopped using SAPI5 voices so can only suggest you look up
> the
> few companies which still sell SAPI5 voices to individuals.
> Perhaps
> Acapela, Cereproc, or NeoSpeech. From memory though, I don't
> think the
> Acapela voices worked with RBClip for some reason, only the
> Rockbox
> Utility. Just make sure the voices are open and not tied in to
> just
> their programs. For the microsoft Speech Platform voices, I gave
> you
> the link for the best one of the lot, but you can follow the link
> I
> provided to see other available MSP11 voices. For the Mac
> however, I
> have no idea since I haven't used an Apple computer since the
> early
> 1990s and good voices didn't exist then, that I'm aware of
> anyway, as
> I wasn't blind then.
>
> HTH,
>
> Laz
>
> On 1/18/15, Jessica Brown <justforlistmessages531@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>   Ok. So, once I install the components, where can I get more
>  voices for both Sapi 5 and microsoft speech platform? If I was
>  using the Mac version, where would I get voices?
>
>  Please go check out my website:
>  http://blindnesseraserblog.wordpress.com which has lots of
>  different info on a number of topics for blind and visually
>  impaired people and which I have recently redone.  Also please
>  check out my low traffic mailing list:
>  //freelists.org/list/erasingblindness where we can talk
>  about anything related to blindness.  Thank you.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Laz <lazmesa6@xxxxxxxxx
>  To: tmp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Date sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:21:50 -0500
>  Subject: [tmp] Re: questions about .talk files
>
>  Hi Jessica,
>
>  The voice that I set up to speak the menu items, folders, and
>  files on
>  your player is Zira Pro. The voice and talk files were created
>  using
>  the Rockbox Utility which is included in your player's Utilities
>  folder. This is not a SAPI5 voice, so you can't use RBClip to
>  create
>  talk files with it unless you have Windows 8 or above on which
>  Zira
>  Pro is one of the available SAPI5 voices.
>
>  The audio tutorial called "Voice and talk files creation with
> the
>  Rockbox Utility.mp3" inside the Tutorials folder shows you how
> to
>  use
>  the Rockbox Utility to create a different voice and to generate
>  talk
>  files for your folders and files, so you can have the same voice
>  speak
>  everything on your player.
>
>  To use the Microsoft Speech Platform voices, you'll need to
>  install
>  two components from Microsoft on your computer:
>
>  *Microsoft Speech Platform - Runtime (Version 11), x86. Note
> that
>  you
>  must install the x86 version even if your system is 64 bit:
>
>  http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27225
>
>  * The file named MSSpeech_TTS_en-US_ZiraPro.msi.
>
>  http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27224
>
>  This page includes many files for both speech recognition and
>  text-to-
>  speech. Choose the files containing the TTS data for the desired
>  languages/voices. For example, the file
>  MSSpeech_TTS_en-US_ZiraPro.msi
>  is a U.S. English voice. You don't need to install the
>  MSSpeech_SR MSI
>  files, as those aren't voices, but speech recognition files.
>
>  The Rockbox Utility on the PC side of things supports two useful
>  types
>  of voices, SAPI5 and the Microsoft Speech Platform 11 voices.
>
>  The voices on the Mac are different from those on the PC. You
> can
>  download the Mac version of the Rockbox Utility by following
> this
>  link:
>
> http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/macosx/RockboxUtility-v1.4.0.d
>  mg
>
>  Apparently the setting was changed on your player regarding
> which
>  files to show. Here's how to change the setting back.
>
>  01.  Navigate to files, don't click to enter it, instead  hold
>  down
>  select until the menu pops up.
>  02.  Navigate to show files and click select.
>  03.  Navigate to supported and click select.
>  04.  Click the left button until you return to the main menu.
>
>  HTH,
>
>  Laz
>
>  On 1/18/15, Jessica Brown <justforlistmessages531@xxxxxxxxx
>  wrote:
>   Ok. I have Windows XP like you. Where can I here samples of and
>   download more sapi 5 and microsoft speech platform voices? Can
>   Rockbox use any other speech engines? Right now, I only have
>   Microsoft Sam and he sounds like he has a bad cold and my .talk
>   files are hard to hear. Also, My pc is falling apart, gets very
>   hot even after using it for a short time, and sometimes shuts
>   down in the middle of using it. I think it will soon quit all
>   together. So everything on it is backed up to dropbox and or a
>   hard drive and I bought a Mac. So can you please send me the
>   download link for the Mac Rockbox utility? If I was using the
>   Mac, what voices would I use for the .talk and .voice files?
>   Would I have the same ones as in windows or would I be able to
>   use the ones in VoiceOver or what? I also noticed that when
>  going
>   through my files, in-between each of my files, it says talk
>  clip.
>   In other words, it is reading out my files as well as the .talk
>   files. Is there a way to get it to only read the actual files
>  and
>   not say the .talk files? Thank you.
>
>   Please go check out my website:
>   http://blindnesseraserblog.wordpress.com which has lots of
>   different info on a number of topics for blind and visually
>   impaired people and which I have recently redone.  Also please
>   check out my low traffic mailing list:
>   //freelists.org/list/erasingblindness where we can talk
>   about anything related to blindness.  Thank you.
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Laz <lazmesa6@xxxxxxxxx
>   To: tmp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Date sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:52:49 -0500
>   Subject: [tmp] Re: questions about .talk files
>
>   Hi Jessica,
>
>   RBClip uses the SAPI5 voices from your computer. When you wish
>  to
>   delete a file or folder, you can do so safely and without any
>  ill
>   effects on any other talk files. RBClip processes one folder at
>  a
>   time, but you can have all your folders inside one folder like
>   inside
>   the My Music folder and process the My Music folder. It'll do
>  all
>   the
>   folders inside the My Music folder if you've set RBClip up as I
>   suggested. I use Zira Pro which is a Microsoft Speech Platform
>  11
>   voice. Zira is also found in the SAPI5 voice choices in Windows
>  8
>   and
>   above. I don't use RBClip but instead use the Rockbox Utility
> to
>   create my talk files. The voice on my computer sounds like that
>   because I was using Zira Pro as my screen reader's voice.
>
>   HTH,
>
>   Laz
>
>   On 1/17/15, Jessica Brown <justforlistmessages531@xxxxxxxxx
>   wrote:
>    Does RB clip come with a voice or do I have to install 1? If I
>    have to install 1, where do I get it from? If I make a .talk
>   file
>    for a file or folder on my player, then decide I do not want
>  the
>    folder or file associated with the .talk file I made anymore,
>  Is
>    it safe to just delete the files or folders I no longer want
>  and
>    there associated .talk files without harming the other talk
>   files
>    on my player? Do I have to process 1 folder at a time, or can
> I
>    do ctrl a at the folder list to process them all at once?
> Those
>    ones anyone should be able to answer, now I have a few for
> Laz.
>    What is the name of the voice you used to make the .talk files
>    for the files and folders that came on the player? When I make
>   my
>    .talk files, I want them to sound the same as the ones that
> are
>    already there. I noticed you had the rate at 60 percent and
> the
>    volume at 100 percent in your podcast. Is that also how you
> did
>    it when you set up the .talk files on the players? As an
> aside,
>   I
>    noticed your computer has the same voice as the players. How
>  did
>    you mannage that? Thank you.
>
>    Please go check out my website:
>    http://blindnesseraserblog.wordpress.com which has lots of
>    different info on a number of topics for blind and visually
>    impaired people and which I have recently redone.  Also please
>    check out my low traffic mailing list:
>    //freelists.org/list/erasingblindness where we can talk
>    about anything related to blindness.  Thank you.
>
>
>
>
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