Hi, Couldn't find the article. But, I've built with Manger drivers as in the MBL speakers, and put Raven ribbons above 10k. I've auditioned Accoustats, and electrostats, the 6ft by 1 ft oddities. I first heard Appogy in around 1984 and didn't like the tonal but liked the inner detail. Later there were the panels above an 8 or 10 inch sub. The 24db networks for ribbons are a pain to get into the box, but the ribbons are so worth it. I wish I could afford the Raven 3. There was a company called "something force" (not nuforce, I just can't remember the name) who made an affordable hybred ribbon/panel. Reasonably priced, sounded like a ribbon with the handling of a panel. My buddy at The Cable Company is a Magna-Pan fan. I'm running a Diappolito of a LPG titanium over scan speak 8's with an NHT12 on each side. Works for now. I really do think Laz's little earbuds deal with the mp3 player's well. -----Original Message----- From: tmp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tmp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:30 PM To: tmp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tmp] Re: Mildly OT: Quality of earphones If you get a chance, check out Adam Audio monitors for their accelerated ribbon technology tweeters. Four times the efficiency and much greater dispersion than traditional designs. Less breakup, better cooling... http://www.resolutionmag.com/pdfs/SWEETS~1/artexplained.pdf Here's a review of the A7X's I went for: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/adam-a7x.htm That's a two-way design. The A77X is a comparable three-way design. At 12:08 PM 3/18/2014, you wrote: >Yes, very. I had Klipshe Cornwalls as my first >high end speakers when I was 18.(unfortunately >on a 200 watt Kenwood), Missions didn't cure me >of that, but Yamaha NS500's berillium tweeters >did. Unfortunately beryllium was too hard to >find so Titanium got the nod for detail and >aluminum for overall as second best. Aluminum >ribbons, Raven 2's were the nicest. >Gratto makes great cartridges, but the >headphones are said to be uncomfortable. Again, >personal, I've never tried them. >I had to design wiring harnesses for a guy who >had push-pull mono for his headphone rig. 4 >headphone amps for his listening. His headphone >collection was priced like beginner audiofile pre-amps. >But I like a little roll off on these mp3 >players for the compression artifacts and the tiny circuits. > > >On Mon, 17 Mar 2014, Chris Smart wrote: > >>I love how personal this stuff is. I've always >>liked horns although now I favor ribbon tweeters. >> >>Anyway, for serious listening, I think Grado >>SR80's and up are the way to go for large >>open-backed headphones. No part of the spectrum >>is hyped and the midrange sounds especially natural. >> >>At 03:12 PM 3/17/2014, you wrote: >>>Hi, >>>In high end audio circles, the Sehns are >>>considered the strong low end. I mean folks >>>who will pay $1000 or $2000 will tell you it's >>>a good start to go with the Sehn open air >>>design in their 650's. So saying that, which >>>needs no rebuttle, I will add personally that >>>I have a set of Sehns that were about $129 and >>>are now selling at about $80. I like them. I >>>like the Nakamichi's better, but they are >>>delicately built, and aren't full surround. >>>I will also say you'd have to go a good bit >>>higher to get more clarity and dynamics out of >>>AKG which are well known as studio. I've not >>>tried these Sehns, but would give them a listen at that price. >>>I don't like the ear-plug type as I can hear >>>my breathing, and a throat-clearing can be emmensely loud. >>>but, the Apple earpods are not bad at $29 on amazon. >>>Laz sells a really inexpensive set that are >>>well suited to the tiny mp3 players. They are >>>softer on the highs, (reduces shrill) and are >>>not trying to be a bass monster. I use them >>>anywhere that the recordings may turn out to >>>be shrill due to being an old, poor, low >>>bit, or sibalant recording from a unit of the "under ipod" level. >>>Just mho, a ribbon tweeter, electro stat, >>>high end solid state fan. (meaning I don't like horns) >>> >>>On Mon, 17 Mar 2014, alan wrote: >>> > hello Jacob. alan from new York city in the >>> u.s. did you say they were > $45 u.s.? also >>> can they stand loud i mean loud music or are they > delicate? >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: Jacob Kruger >>> > To: tmp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 11:48 >>> > Subject: [tmp] Mildly OT: Quality of earphones >>> > > > Recently got given a set of really >>> good quality earphones by a guy am > doing a >>> bit of work for, as a form of thanks, and >>> while had just told > him I'd want, >>> specifically in-ear/ear canal earphones, he >>> got me a set > of some rather expensive >>> ones, Sennheiser CX302 - and I say >>> they're > rather expensive, since the local >>> pricing for them seems to be > roundabout >>> ZAR485 = +- USD45, but, first thing you >>> notice, aside from > their feature of >>> surrounding noise cancellation, is just the > quality/clarity of their output. >>> > > As in, although while listening to >>> songs/music you know well enough >>> from > before, some of the levels of detail, clarity, etc., are just wow! >>> > > And, in case relevant, here's the one >>> local product page for these > earphones - >>> along with a bit of their specification: >>> > >>> https://www.mercurymusic.co.za/Sennheiser-CX300II-Black-Ear-Canal-Phones >>> > > high passive attenuation of ambient noise >>> > Frequency response (headphones) 19 - 20000 Hz >>> > Impedance 16 Ω >>> > Sound pressure level (SPL) 113 dB >>> > Jack plug 3.5 mm (angled) >>> > Cable length 1.2 m >>> > > Stay well >>> > > Jacob Kruger >>> > Blind Biker >>> > Skype: BlindZA >>> > "Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..." >> >>