Add the NVIDIA problem on HP Pavilion laptop motherboards. GPU BGA's lead free. I have 3 in my shop to reflow the chips. From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Burke Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:08 PM To: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: Not exactly tin whiskers, but I seek your support. I just posted this: No unusual reliability issues.....$3+Billion on ONE project failure of XBOX-360 failures...LOL no unusual reliability issues....now that is funny. John ________________________________ From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fritz, Dennis D. Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:18 PM To: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tinwhiskers] Not exactly tin whiskers, but I seek your support. Recently, on the Circuits Assembly blog, Dr Ron Lasky published a column, bragging about the reliability of lead-free electronics - based on the presentations at a session of SMTAI where he was the chairman. All of these papers were about commercial electronics, and are well done. Dr Ron goes on to infer that lead-free electronics should be accepted as reliable, (in my interpretation) for all environments and situations. Dr Ron implies that scientists against lead-free are just wrong. I maintain that the information in this column in Circuits Assembly is very misleading - regarding harsh environments. I cite the three papers later at SMTAI from the NASA/DoD participants who each state "lead based assembly out-performed lead-free in these harsh tests". Here is the link to the Lasky column: http://circuitsassembly.com/blog/?p=1332 Please read it, and add your comments if you wish. Should you feel inclined to drop a note to Circuits Assembly or to Mike Buetow, I am not going to stop you. Thanks - Denny Fritz